10:25am
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10:25am
horsepigcow
BarCamp planners summit called to order
10:28am
Topic changed to "BarCampPlannersSummit is on" by factoryjoe.
10:46am
horsepigcow
Barcamp role: outreach coordinator
10:53am
blakehall (n=blakehal@24-159-243-196.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) joined the chat room.
10:53am
horsepigcow
hey blakehall
10:53am
blakehall
howdy
10:53am
factoryjoe
heya
10:53am
factoryjoe
where y'at?
10:54am
blakehall
madison, wi...
10:54am
blakehall
how's austin?
10:54am
horsepigcow
pretty nice
10:54am
horsepigcow
we're in a schwank hotel meeting about barcamp
10:54am
horsepigcow
I think it's kind of cute
10:54am
horsepigcow
:)
10:55am
factoryjoe
blakehall: are you involved with barcamp usa?
10:55am
blakehall
sounds familiar http://flickr.com/photos/blakehall/409006226/in/set-72157594566652394/
10:55am
blakehall
factoryjoe: not formally
10:55am
blakehall
still a bit of a cynic about the concept
10:55am
horsepigcow
(ditto)
10:56am
horsepigcow
Whereabouts are ya?
10:57am
blakehall
horsepigcow: madison, wisconsin
10:57am
horsepigcow
ah
10:57am
horsepigcow
you were part of BarCampMadison, then?
10:57am
horsepigcow
I heard it went very well
10:57am
blakehall
yep, not as large of a turnout as we hoped
10:57am
horsepigcow
it takes time to grow
10:57am
blakehall
but considering the weather i'd say it was a success
10:58am
factoryjoe
i'm also skeptical
10:58am
blakehall
and we've definitely learned for next time
10:58am
horsepigcow
we are actually talking a bit today about the tools and how to incentivize the people who sign up to follow through and attend
10:58am
blakehall
the madison rails group is working on a barcamp scheduling app
10:58am
factoryjoe
nice!
10:58am
blakehall
(meeting #2 is tonight)
10:58am
horsepigcow
I mean, the wiki is a very low commitment
10:59am
blakehall
we're hoping to do some type of event scheduling management + social networking stuff
10:59am
blakehall
horsepigcow: so true...
10:59am
horsepigcow
cool
11:00am
horsepigcow
yeah, have you ever used eventwax or eventbrite?
11:00am
blakehall
nope, i'll have to check them out
11:04am
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11:04am
horsepigcow
Agenda: the roles, diversity & the tools
11:05am
horsepigcow
Jay takes the roles
11:07am
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11:07am
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11:07am
factoryjoe
yo yo
11:07am
alexdc
heya
11:08am
horsepigcow
hi alexdc!
11:08am
alexdc
hey tara!
11:08am
horsepigcow
thanks for joining us
11:09am
horsepigcow
We'd love your feedback...Erica and I are working on the tools
11:09am
shimon
hi folks
11:09am
horsepigcow
Did you use something other than the wii
11:09am
horsepigcow
wiki?
11:10am
alexdc
well, i used a blog and upcoming.org as well
11:10am
alexdc
barcamp.webpl.us
11:11am
horsepigcow
for all of your organizing?
11:11am
horsepigcow
you used the wiki? email? google docs? etc?
11:11am
alexdc
yes, but i directed people to sign up on the wiki, even though some signed up at upcoming
11:11am
alexdc
so overall i used a wiki, a blog, upcoming, and also googlegroups
11:11am
horsepigcow
cool
11:12am
alexdc
tara ... i've got lunch plans ... i'll be back in 30 mins. ... i'll be logging this ... ttyl
11:12am
blakehall
for barcampmadison we used a wiki, and googlegroups primarily (with posted notices on facebook, upcoming, eventful etc....)
11:13am
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11:19am
factoryjoe
hey tbonnemann
11:19am
tbonnemann
howdy. ;-)
11:19am
tbonnemann
I'm listening to joe trippi and others at politics online in DC
11:19am
factoryjoe
nice!
11:19am
factoryjoe
we're taking a survey -- what tools have you used in organizing barcamp?
11:19am
tbonnemann
thinking of how to use twitter for political campaigs ...
11:19am
factoryjoe
heh
11:20am
tbonnemann
tools: wiki, phone, IM ...
11:20am
tbonnemann
are the first that come to mind. wiki to capture, IM/phone/skype to talk. less email.
11:24am
tantek
factoryjoe - what are the barcamp summit physical coordinates?
11:24am
factoryjoe
the driskill
11:24am
factoryjoe
lemme get url
11:25am
factoryjoe
604 Brazos Street, Austin, TX
11:25am
tantek
room?
11:26am
factoryjoe
we're upstairs
11:26am
horsepigcow
We are in the back
11:26am
factoryjoe
go through the restaurant
11:26am
horsepigcow
well, kind of upstairs
11:26am
horsepigcow
bar area
11:26am
factoryjoe
straight through the couch area
11:26am
factoryjoe
there's a staircase in front of you
11:26am
horsepigcow
halfway up the stairs and straight back
11:26am
factoryjoe
walk up the stairs (1 flight) and keep going straight
11:31am
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11:41am
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11:44am
horsepigcow
hey RachelC!
11:44am
RachelC
morning Tara
11:44am
horsepigcow
howzit going?
11:45am
horsepigcow
Are you in NYC?
11:45am
RachelC
back at work :(
11:45am
horsepigcow
bummer
11:45am
RachelC
wishing I was still down there
11:45am
horsepigcow
yeah, it would be great to have you here!
11:46am
horsepigcow
Erica and I are discussing the tools for setting up a barcamp
11:46am
horsepigcow
any additional ones you can think of beyond the obvious?
11:46am
RachelC
any audio stream..or is it just later?
11:47am
RachelC
the obviousd being wiki/blog/IM/groups/project management tool?
11:47am
RachelC
with Skype for voice chat
11:47am
RachelC
and google web apps for shared spreadsheets/docs etc
11:48am
horsepigcow
awesome
11:48am
RachelC
anything beyonfd that I', seeign them having a specialised need for the barcamp..so would not be inthe normal range
11:48am
horsepigcow
we are recording it right now, but it's not streaming
11:49am
RachelC
I'll listen later then ;)
11:49am
horsepigcow
thanks for that!
11:49am
horsepigcow
it seems that many use google docs et al
11:49am
horsepigcow
We are putting together a 'toolkit'
11:49am
horsepigcow
any advice?
11:51am
RachelC
yep...work on the howto as well. screencasts of what to do. don;t assume the organisers know how to use the tools, especially as the concept spreads beyond tech
11:51am
blakehall
one of the things we've struggled with is the maintenance of a scheduling grid during the event.
11:51am
blakehall
physical vs online
11:51am
blakehall
how to handle changes etc.
11:52am
RachelC
I always thought the offline wall grid worked well...are you looking for an online tool to supplement that?
11:53am
blakehall
yep
11:53am
blakehall
especially if you're spread out in a space it's somewhat inconvenient to have to revisit the wall grid
11:54am
blakehall
i think it's really a space dependent issue
11:54am
RachelC
'public' terminal next to grid, everytime you change the grid you have to change the calender (assuming something like google cal). opr even the wall grid is the online grifd, just projected all day, so you have to chagne the online to cahgne the offline
11:55am
horsepigcow
yeah, we've definitely considered a way that the grid can be automated. Hmmmm...that would be cool.
11:55am
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11:56am
horsepigcow
Erica just told me that someone here (Lindsey Simon) is working on it
11:56am
horsepigcow
Know anyone else?
11:56am
RachelC
you have to hav ethe same grid for on and offline, otherwise a 2 step process only gets followed by some
11:56am
horsepigcow
totally
11:56am
blakehall
yep
11:56am
horsepigcow
In the past, we assigned someone the role of duplicating it on the wiki
11:56am
horsepigcow
...but it changes so often
11:57am
horsepigcow
Erica just suggested: what if the grid is a projected image?
11:57am
blakehall
not to mention that's not a *fun* job
11:57am
horsepigcow
totally
11:57am
blakehall
downside = "wasted" projector
11:57am
horsepigcow
Yeah...
11:58am
horsepigcow
and a laptop that needs to be dedicated
11:58am
RachelC
RFID's on session cards placed on a location sensitive wall, updating automatically! Fun idea, would love to build, just not practical :)
11:58am
horsepigcow
But we've also been talking for a while about putting together a toolkit (event in a box) to send around
11:58am
horsepigcow
RFID...nice
11:58am
horsepigcow
How complicated is that now?
11:59am
RachelC
it's doable (reader, writer, feeed to calender) but probably not thatcheap.
12:00pm
RachelC
on a barcamp budget
12:00pm
horsepigcow
yeah
12:00pm
horsepigcow
Anyone had any issues with people coming and not participating? Any ways you encouraged it?
12:01pm
blakehall
it would be ideal to just convince presenters to project the grid from each session room at the end of the session... (bonus points for somehow automating the process)
12:01pm
horsepigcow
yeah
12:01pm
horsepigcow
that would be pretty lightweight
12:01pm
RachelC
on the grid, I think comiong up with a number of solutions, to be used deoending on kit available, people and logistics of space
12:02pm
RachelC
not sure if one ideal solution is there yet
12:02pm
horsepigcow
yeah
12:03pm
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12:03pm
horsepigcow
ericskiff!
12:03pm
horsepigcow
good to have you here!
12:03pm
horsepigcow
hi from Erica
12:03pm
RachelC
you found us then eric
12:03pm
horsepigcow
:)
12:03pm
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12:04pm
ericskiff
Wish i was there in the flesh :)
12:04pm
horsepigcow
totally
12:04pm
markkuznicki
mark from toronto in da house
12:04pm
horsepigcow
Eric, had any issues with people coming and not participating? Any ways you encouraged it?
12:04pm
horsepigcow
Mark!
12:04pm
horsepigcow
Hola mi amigo!
12:04pm
markkuznicki
hello!
12:04pm
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12:04pm
horsepigcow
Howz OpenCities coming along?
12:05pm
markkuznicki
opencities is coming along nicely....
12:05pm
horsepigcow
cool
12:05pm
horsepigcow
is the date still late June?
12:05pm
markkuznicki
next week we have a 15-20 person brainstorm session on what "open" means
12:05pm
markkuznicki
yep, June 23rd
12:05pm
horsepigcow
cool
12:05pm
horsepigcow
I think we are skipping Tel Aviv and coming to T-dot
12:06pm
markkuznicki
we still have to nail down the venue...
12:06pm
markkuznicki
wikkid!
12:06pm
ericskiff
BarCampNYCII definitely had a bit of a different flavor than the first, and we had some open slots in the schedule.
12:06pm
RachelC
on the going and not participating...got to reduce the scariness. they may not have presented, they feel overawede by the knowledge. so one way may be moderated show and tell sessions, get people to open up in small groups
12:06pm
RachelC
without having to do a presentation...reduce the scare factor
12:06pm
RachelC
if they can open up and see that people are interested, then they may be encouraged
12:06pm
horsepigcow
Do you think mentors (people who have presented before making certain they ask newbies to present or co-present) would help?
12:07pm
ericskiff
As barcamp's brand grows, people who aren't already part of our community may show up, and not know any of the other presenters
12:07pm
ericskiff
I think mentors are a great idea
12:07pm
horsepigcow
Yeah
12:07pm
RachelC
mentors would be good, but as eric says, the pairing up can be a challenge
12:07pm
horsepigcow
At BarCamp SF, some of the same people gave 3 or 4 presentations, but they could have asked new people to be part of these
12:07pm
ericskiff
Actually, my teamup with John Resig for my first presentation was huge
12:07pm
horsepigcow
nice
12:08pm
horsepigcow
If we had a bit more time for those morning hallway conversations, we could find out what newbies are interested in
12:08pm
ericskiff
It made a ton of difference for me, because it gave me extra motivation to make it good
12:08pm
horsepigcow
yeah
12:08pm
blakehall
we did some kinds of "tool share" kinds of sessions that were low-barrier of entry
12:08pm
blakehall
that seemed to work well
12:08pm
horsepigcow
Cool. Did you specify the tools?
12:08pm
blakehall
yeah, demos and all ;)
12:09pm
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12:09pm
horsepigcow
I wonder if a "show and tell" session would help
12:09pm
horsepigcow
Where people each have 5-10 minutes ... like lightening rounds
12:09pm
horsepigcow
Has anyone been to Ignite?
12:10pm
ericskiff
We're really trying to encourage team-ups with PodCampNYC - lots of folks are presenting loosely the same material, so panels and collaborations are great. It's also a great way for the presenters to really get to know other experts on their topic
12:10pm
RachelC
i think it would, you have to break 2 potentials bariers - 'i hate presenting' and 'no ones interested in what i have to say'. so smaller, 'safer' sessions are good
12:10pm
horsepigcow
cool
12:10pm
blakehall
one of the ideas i wanted to try for madison (but didn't) was to have a half hour of speed sessions (5-10min) every three or four hours to "preview" upcoming sessions, or just demo some cool thing
12:11pm
horsepigcow
that's a great idea
12:11pm
ericskiff
I really like that preview idea blake
12:11pm
horsepigcow
At FOO, they asked us to give our name, company + 3 tags that described the work we wanted to present on. People in the audience had to yell out 'Present' if they wanted to see it. Almost everyone had some 'Present's yelled at them.
12:12pm
markkuznicki
that's cool
12:12pm
markkuznicki
i like tags
12:12pm
ericskiff
That's cool as well - early encouragement that people want to see your topic
12:12pm
horsepigcow
Exactly
12:12pm
markkuznicki
and audience participation
12:12pm
horsepigcow
I think that people wanted to encourage one another
12:12pm
RachelC
breaks down the idea that no one is interested,
12:12pm
akalsey
Startup camp had a list of possible presentations on the wiki. I think getting the first few on there encouraged other people to put ideas up.
12:13pm
horsepigcow
and it felt like there were more 'Presents' for odd or different topics and definitely more encouragement for people nobody had heard from before
12:13pm
horsepigcow
hey akalsey - startupcamp rockz
12:14pm
akalsey
It was a little weird having an unconference planned and managed by a conference company, but yeah, it was great.
12:14pm
horsepigcow
I like the ideas, anyway
12:15pm
akalsey
It wasn't full of the usual suspects in the Bay Area so I got to meet a wide variety of folks.
12:15pm
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12:15pm
horsepigcow
g'day willpate
12:17pm
akalsey
As BarCamp Sac nears, I'm going to be hitting the registered attendees up for their presentation ideas. Not just stuff they want to present, but stuff they want others to present.
12:17pm
horsepigcow
I think will just killed the conversation. ;)
12:17pm
horsepigcow
lol
12:18pm
RachelC
no, just regrouping the mind
12:18pm
akalsey
I'll stick that on the wiki and hope it drives interest in leading some sessions.
12:18pm
horsepigcow
akalsey: good idea. Do you use a mailing list? or just the wiki
12:18pm
horsepigcow
lol
12:18pm
horsepigcow
We've been discussing how the wiki is kind of a graveyard of information
12:18pm
horsepigcow
That email reminds and refreshes...or IM...some have used EventWax or EventBrite to send out follow up emails
12:18pm
markkuznicki
we have had that issue with transitcamp....
12:19pm
horsepigcow
Yeah, Micah is here :)
12:19pm
markkuznicki
the wiki was used a lot on the day, but not much happened after...the
12:19pm
blakehall
i think we've all become used to more personal tools (than wikis)...
12:19pm
akalsey
Both. We're hosting BarCamp under the auspices of a fledgling professional organization here, so we have the tech resources already in place for communication
12:19pm
akalsey
Blogs, forums, mailing lists...
12:19pm
horsepigcow
nice
12:19pm
horsepigcow
I heart the Toronto BarCamp skype channel, too...
12:19pm
horsepigcow
I think it really keeps the community in touch
12:20pm
markkuznicki
skype chatswarm is NUTS
12:20pm
markkuznicki
it's a whole new level, imho
12:20pm
markkuznicki
thanks will pate!
12:20pm
horsepigcow
yeah
12:20pm
horsepigcow
willpate?
12:20pm
markkuznicki
we create ad hoc spin-off chatrooms on any idea that has stickiness in the main swarm
12:20pm
akalsey
I'm going to be opening up a Jabber conference room or two during BarCamp. Perhaps I can stream the session logs to a web site.
12:20pm
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12:21pm
horsepigcow
akalsey: will you document that on the site?
12:21pm
willpate
yeh?:)
12:21pm
horsepigcow
Hey! Was wondering if this willpate was just a robot...:)
12:21pm
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12:21pm
blakehall
i'll have to look at using skype. we just had an irc channel (which worked well too)
12:21pm
akalsey
Also, we're going to simulcast all the sessions on the web.
12:21pm
akalsey
Using Speakr
12:21pm
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12:21pm
markkuznicki
here come the toronto swarmies now... hi Ryan Coleman - founder of VizThink - a camp for visual thinking
12:21pm
horsepigcow
even better akalsey: will you email it to barcamp@googlegroups.com
12:21pm
akalsey
horsepigcow: sure, as I get some details
12:22pm
horsepigcow
Nice...I met the guy behind Speakr a while ago
12:22pm
willpate
c'est moi
12:22pm
willpate
hehe, a love-bot
12:22pm
horsepigcow
Hi Ryan_Coleman!
12:22pm
Ryan_Coleman
hullo...
12:23pm
akalsey
I'm trying to decide if I pre-create Jabber rooms for each physical room at the site, or let people create their own as they want.
12:23pm
horsepigcow
For those of you who don't know, Speakr is a tool that makes Webex much more accessible for us
12:23pm
akalsey
Advantages of pre-creating the rooms is that we can post the JIDs on the wall next to the sessions
12:23pm
horsepigcow
Yeah...projecting the backchannel. ;)
12:23pm
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12:23pm
markkuznicki
welcome tom purves - founder of EnterpriseCamp
12:23pm
thomaspurves
hi all
12:23pm
horsepigcow
Hey thomaspurves
12:23pm
markkuznicki
chuckles at the Toronto takeover of #barcamp
12:24pm
henrietteweberan (n=henriett@port555.ds1-gl.adsl.cybercity.dk) joined the chat room.
12:24pm
horsepigcow
Those Torontonians...who knew.
12:24pm
henrietteweberan
hi guys
12:24pm
horsepigcow
allo henriette!
12:24pm
markkuznicki
hi henriette - live from Copenhagen!
12:24pm
henrietteweberan
bonjour mrs. rogue..
12:24pm
horsepigcow
someone announced something in the skype swarm. ;)
12:24pm
horsepigcow
Mr. Remarkkable?
12:25pm
akalsey
horsepigcow: Yes, I was talking with David from Speakr about you. (he lives near me) He says hi.
12:25pm
henrietteweberan
*yep* in the middle of a family dinner - but I needed to check the summit out..
12:25pm
alexdc
waves at henriette
12:25pm
willpate
high fives all
12:25pm
horsepigcow
Alright...since there is more of a mass here now. Erica O'Grady and I are in charge (during the BCPlanners summit break outs) of working on the toolbox.
12:25pm
henrietteweberan
Hi Alex you in here as well ?
12:25pm
akalsey
forgot to put his hand up and was high fived in the forehead instead.
12:26pm
henrietteweberan
so hows it coming along -what are you discussing
12:26pm
horsepigcow
Well, we will make the google doc totally public right away
12:26pm
ericskiff
well - here's a questions for all of you. Wireless is proving to be very difficult to provide at The New School for podcamp NYC. We consider it a dealbreaker, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on that. Can you have a barcamp without wifi?
12:26pm
horsepigcow
ericskiff: yes you can
12:26pm
markkuznicki
is guilty as charged
12:26pm
horsepigcow
just set expectations
12:27pm
horsepigcow
We did winecamp sans wifi OR power for the first day
12:27pm
henrietteweberan
Eric : I would say yes
12:27pm
henrietteweberan
the cool part of a barcamp is the outsiders peeking in all the time
12:27pm
horsepigcow
it led to more engaged conversations
12:27pm
akalsey
ericskiff: Try contacting some local EVDO providers and see if they can give you EVDO for the presenters at least.
12:27pm
henrietteweberan
I want to go to a winecamp too..
12:28pm
willpate
the frenchman in me <3's wine
12:28pm
alexdc
we had issues with wifi as well at the university of miami. the compromise was that there was a registration process for those who wanted to use wifi
12:28pm
Ryan_Coleman
eric: the last camp up here had flaky wifi which progressed into none by EOD... only one person was badly affected (couldn't do pres) but the day rolled along
12:28pm
ericskiff
Ya - I'm starting to wonder if we're focusing too much on it. I imagine there will be both good and bad outcomes from not having it
12:29pm
henrietteweberan
we had wifi at Copenhagen - but only a small startup office with 10 people..
12:29pm
henrietteweberan
I saved the crammed space by making cookies...
12:29pm
RachelC
set the expectations early enough
12:29pm
Ryan_Coleman
everyone will have to wait to get home before they see photos of themselves up on Flickr ;)
12:29pm
ericskiff
Heh :)
12:29pm
henrietteweberan
we could flickrbooth them *s* and tag them
12:29pm
henrietteweberan
then we have photos...
12:30pm
horsepigcow
Flickrbooth is an awesome idea
12:31pm
ericskiff
Wow - I love the idae of a flickrbooth at the event anyway! :)
12:31pm
akalsey
If I have a spare projector I was thinking about projecting a tagstream of BarCampSac tags on the wall.
12:31pm
akalsey
Anything on Flickr, blogs, etc
12:31pm
horsepigcow
We had our Mac Mini set up at the Ma.gnolia 1st anniversary party to take shots of everyone coming in
12:31pm
henrietteweberan
http://www.flickr.com/photos/redsoda/422232375/
12:32pm
henrietteweberan
oh and I even forgot to put on my brand new glasses..
12:32pm
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12:32pm
henrietteweberan
I like the flickrbooth idea of a camp as well... it would be an excellent idea to capture - well people instantly..
12:33pm
henrietteweberan
I guess I am a sucker for instant things.. impulsive and unplanned
12:35pm
markkuznicki
to eric's question about wifi access, the wireless toronto people have a roaming battery powered wifi backup that repeats wimax to wifi, completely portable....
12:35pm
horsepigcow
does everyone else have an issue with people who sign up on the wiki and don't bother to show up? How do you deal with it?
12:36pm
henrietteweberan
at CPH we had 25 signing up and only 10 showing up..
12:36pm
markkuznicki
i think that signing off on some kinds of code of participation is important...
12:36pm
horsepigcow
markkuznicki: that's awesome...would you be able to produce a bunch of those that we could have each region 'own' to send around to different camps?
12:36pm
henrietteweberan
I guess you can't do anything about it..
12:36pm
akalsey
If there's no cost, people will do that. They need to value their signup a little.
12:36pm
RachelC
name and shame??? that may work. but not the best
12:36pm
ericskiff
markkuznicki: we're definitely working along those lines, hoping to partner with towerstream
12:36pm
horsepigcow
We were talking about requiring an email somehow: eventwax or eventbrite
12:36pm
RachelC
there's no 'value' in signing up. If free there is less investment
12:36pm
akalsey
We've toyed with the idea of charging a tiny fee -- $5-10 US -- to come
12:36pm
horsepigcow
to follow up
12:37pm
ericskiff
wimax to the roof -> wifi from the termination point
12:37pm
henrietteweberan
I always make some kind of statement on my blog or on the wiki saying that it's not okay..
12:37pm
horsepigcow
does anyone use reminder emails?
12:37pm
RachelC
akalsey - wer you planing on giving it back when they came?
12:37pm
akalsey
RachelC: we were going to use it for shirts
12:37pm
henrietteweberan
even though it proven that people are taking it personal when you "attack" them on a public page...
12:37pm
horsepigcow
I'll bet! ;)
12:38pm
akalsey
That way anyone who shows up the day of the event without pre-registering just doesn't get a shirt.
12:38pm
horsepigcow
akalsey: that's a good idea
12:38pm
blakehall
we did a scrape of the wiki and sent out a reminder for those folks
12:38pm
RachelC
they got the value if they arrived - that would probably trigger attendance more than no commitment
12:38pm
blakehall
(because we did dinner and the comedy club the night before)
12:38pm
henrietteweberan
half of the people not showing up did it 3-4 hours before the venue...
12:38pm
ericskiff
BarCampNYC has discussed charging as well, much more to encourage actually showing up than to generate $
12:38pm
akalsey
horsepigcow: We're using the same signup system we use for our other events. It takes names, emails, and phone numbers, and automatically sends a reminder a few days before the event.
12:39pm
horsepigcow
akalsey, what do you use? Is it your own?
12:41pm
markkuznicki
barcampers interested in the wifi backpack should contact http://wirelesstoronto.ca/ and find your local community wireless group to replicate the device
12:41pm
urgen
unless you have tons of extra shirts and left with the bill
12:41pm
ericskiff
horsepigcow: yup - PodCampNYC has a registration system very similar to the first BarCampNYC
12:41pm
akalsey
We're using a semi-custom signup module for Drupal to handle that stuff.
12:41pm
ericskiff
is there wimax available to repeat?
12:41pm
urgen
other barcamps have sold the extra shirts
12:41pm
akalsey
horsepigcow: see above. I think we were typing at the same time
12:41pm
akalsey
See http://www.sacstarts.com/events/2007/06/02/barcamp-sacramento
12:41pm
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12:41pm
akalsey
Feel free to signup to test the system out. But let me know about it so I can delete the test signups. :)
12:42pm
horsepigcow
So, we are also wanting to coordinate an 'Event in a Box', where we take stuff donated to past BarCamps, put it on spreadsheets, publicize it for use by other Barcamps...probably organized regionally
12:42pm
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12:42pm
horsepigcow
(yeah...my wifi is flakey right now - ironically - so I may post intermittently)
12:42pm
henrietteweberan
@akalsey - Im trying it out.. but you can delete me again..
12:43pm
horsepigcow
markkuznicki: I'm adding that link to the tools page, but I also want to pre-manufacture these kits for future barcamp ease
12:43pm
ericskiff
horsepigcow: That sounds outstanding. Even things like mini-dvi->vga cables, powerstrips, and wifi routers would be a great start
12:43pm
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12:43pm
henrietteweberan
@akalsey - but if I am in sacramento - I will drop by
12:45pm
markkuznicki
ericskiff: apparently pre-standards wimax, in Canada offered by rogers: http://www.shoprogers.com/Store/Cable/InternetContent/portable_internet.asp; although i'm no expert
12:45pm
akalsey
henrietteweberan: you should get an email confirmation now. I'll delete your signup, but you'd also get a reminder 48 hours before the event start.
12:45pm
henrietteweberan
horsepigcow: what a cool idea..
12:45pm
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12:45pm
henrietteweberan
ohh that's fine.. I think I can manage
12:45pm
markkuznicki
horsepigcow: i think we know enough community wireless people distributed around to pull that together
12:45pm
horsepigcow
that would be awesome
12:45pm
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12:45pm
henrietteweberan
is there anyone else in her from europe ? ( apart from Rachel who doesn't count because she lives in NY?)
12:45pm
horsepigcow
I'd love to get more 'gel'd' right now...it's time
12:46pm
horsepigcow
A really cool quote by Jay F.: BarCamp is giving a voice to those who currently doesn't have a voice...we need to continue this beyond our group
12:46pm
horsepigcow
Google doc in progress; http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfj8ndx4_5c4kq8r
12:46pm
horsepigcow
If you would like to collaborate, drop me a line
12:47pm
horsepigcow
horsepigcow@gmail.com
12:47pm
horsepigcow
We're only just getting going
12:47pm
akalsey
horsepigcow: what ever happened to the wireless-in-a-box that Christopher Allen and company were working on at BarCampSF?
12:47pm
horsepigcow
It's part of it...but they didn't ever 'produce' it or test it
12:48pm
horsepigcow
or build it
12:48pm
horsepigcow
But we'll get the specs from them to actually produce it
12:48pm
horsepigcow
It may take capital, which will require a sponsor
12:48pm
akalsey
I hear Cisco has some extra cash lying around. :)
12:49pm
akalsey
And this would cost a LOT less than $3.2 billion
12:50pm
horsepigcow
lol
12:51pm
markkuznicki
definitely regionally
12:51pm
markkuznicki
ain't schleppin' crap to Winnepeg!
12:55pm
ericskiff
has anyone seen a mesh network actually work at an event?
12:55pm
akalsey
Yeah. Sasquatch was running it along with the Easter Bunny.
12:55pm
ericskiff
ol
12:55pm
ericskiff
lol
12:55pm
markkuznicki
is heading to a meeting, will check in later
12:57pm
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12:57pm
akalsey
Is anyone logging this channel from the beginning of the summit?
12:57pm
akalsey
So we can capture some of this stuff?
12:57pm
henrietteweberan
how come that most companies are sure that they can attract customers with flash movies ?
12:57pm
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12:57pm
henrietteweberan
what do you think is it appealing or is it just plain stupid..
12:57pm
henrietteweberan
hi pedro
12:57pm
pecus
hey henriette
12:57pm
thomaspurves
hey pedro
12:57pm
pecus
and everyone else
12:57pm
pecus
;)
12:57pm
RachelC
henriette...cos agencies can;t do anything else
12:57pm
akalsey
henrietteweberan: I don't understand what you're asking
12:57pm
ericskiff
henrietteweberan: it looks like "old media" commercials, which must be working if people are doing so much of it, right?
12:57pm
henrietteweberan
well at the company where I work, the most creative you can get is a flashmovie..
12:57pm
henrietteweberan
and it supposedly is the most sellable..
12:59pm
henrietteweberan
hey thomas
12:59pm
RachelC
I've tried to suggest peopel hear look at other metods, but that is the way the creatives think and the production skillset. adn that is a whole differnet rant to this discussion.. I could be here all day :(
12:59pm
henrietteweberan
Im here too..
12:59pm
henrietteweberan
I mean.. all day.. like..
12:59pm
henrietteweberan
or something
12:59pm
henrietteweberan
Im rambling again - never mind me *gg*
1:01pm
urgen
creative and taste are two different things
1:01pm
urgen
flash alone doesn't guarantee anything
1:01pm
henrietteweberan
@urgen : but that seems to be the general perception..
1:01pm
henrietteweberan
I mean if you sell food online - i guess a flashmovie is a good thing..
1:03pm
henrietteweberan
or is it ?
1:03pm
urgen
not if it frustrates
1:03pm
urgen
the quicker people move away from the web as brocureware the better
1:03pm
urgen
lets see I have this hot new macproquad and so it has 18000 pixels and a flash movie that is locked into 600 pixels shows up
1:03pm
urgen
impressive or not?
1:03pm
urgen
:-)
1:05pm
urgen
flash dunt flex
1:05pm
horsepigcow
I'm saving it
1:05pm
horsepigcow
Sorry...stepped away for a bit. :)
1:06pm
pecus
:)
1:08pm
pecus
hey tara :)
1:08pm
henrietteweberan
uuhh im on bloggerview - right after tara *s* what a claim to fame *gg*
1:08pm
akalsey
Geez, what sort of host are you anyway? Did you at least bring us back drinks?
1:08pm
pecus
hehe
1:08pm
pecus
cookies?
1:09pm
horsepigcow
no drinks
1:09pm
horsepigcow
no cookies
1:09pm
alexdc
manda um abraco a pedro! tudo bem?
1:09pm
akalsey
goes to make his own drink, then
1:09pm
akalsey
realizes it's only 11am and too early for a drink.
1:09pm
horsepigcow
sorry
1:10pm
horsepigcow
it's 1:10 pm here
1:10pm
henrietteweberan
I will make a drink - it's 7.10 pm here and I guess I am allowed then..
1:10pm
akalsey
It'
1:10pm
akalsey
It's true what they say. It's after 5pm somewhere
1:11pm
henrietteweberan
@akalsey : somewhere as in Denmark
1:11pm
horsepigcow
Maybe BarCamp just needs a flash intro. :P
1:11pm
horsepigcow
hey Henriette?
1:12pm
henrietteweberan
yep
1:13pm
akalsey
horsepigcow: With music! and no way to skip!
1:13pm
henrietteweberan
I think barcamp should have a flash intro..
1:13pm
henrietteweberan
you and chris could play guitars..
1:13pm
henrietteweberan
ohh and thanks for the drink guys http://www.flickr.com/photos/redsoda/422266295/
1:13pm
henrietteweberan
everybody could choose what they wanted to do themselves..
1:13pm
horsepigcow
One of those crazy flash intros where the navigation was a puzzle, eh?
1:13pm
henrietteweberan
I would wear a jesterhat and do the macarena..
1:13pm
henrietteweberan
that would be the coolest
1:13pm
henrietteweberan
kinda like the lost in lausanne video that pedro and I did at lift07
1:14pm
henrietteweberan
ohh that would be wonderful...
1:14pm
horsepigcow
It would be so Web 3.0
1:14pm
henrietteweberan
or we could do one like the intro of the brady bunch he he
1:14pm
RachelC
you're all scaring me now....
1:14pm
henrietteweberan
rachel should be announced queen ! - in the video..
1:15pm
blakehall
i thought web 3.0 included more ninjas?
1:15pm
akalsey
mystery meat navigation? I am SO in.
1:15pm
blakehall
or was that pirates?
1:16pm
horsepigcow
anyone on ichat?
1:16pm
akalsey
blakehall: Ninja pirate kittens.
1:16pm
blakehall
i'll have to re-read the api
1:16pm
akalsey
They're badass. And they're so cute, they sort of sneak up on ya
1:16pm
henrietteweberan
tech ninja pirate kittens..
1:16pm
horsepigcow
aol: sanfranrogue
1:16pm
akalsey
ROBOT ninja pirate kittens
1:16pm
blakehall
aim & gtalk here
1:16pm
henrietteweberan
Suw charman, me, martin roell and duarte grilo did a tech ninja google group after shift..
1:16pm
henrietteweberan
we still have it, haven't used it for anything..
1:16pm
henrietteweberan
I just wanted a tech ninja group
1:16pm
ericskiff
horsepigcow: I'm on ichat as fsck , had some trouble connecting to whurley via video tho
1:17pm
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1:17pm
blakehall
aol: quantumb8
1:17pm
horsepigcow
ericskiff: you have video?
1:17pm
ericskiff
horsepigcow: yup :)
1:18pm
RachelC
eric, now you'tre making be jealous
1:18pm
horsepigcow
bummer dude
1:19pm
ericskiff
Don't be too jealous :) All i get is connex errors
1:20pm
RachelC
lol..so you own have gthe possibility of video - it's quantum
1:20pm
henrietteweberan
if you were going to decorate a hallway - and you wanted it geeky - what would you put in there ?
1:20pm
akalsey
henrietteweberan: Tech ninjas? here: http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/A_True_Ninja_Hacker_Is_Like_The_Wind.aspx
1:21pm
horsepigcow
I'm eating lunch now, but keep talking 'cause I'm recording
1:21pm
ericskiff
One other thing I'd love to discuss with all you is "terminal size"
1:21pm
ericskiff
is there a point when a barcamp gets too big?
1:22pm
urgen
isn't there an opensource flash?
1:22pm
ericskiff
Would we be better off with a packed room of 100, or a sprawling event with lots of breakout rooms etc?
1:22pm
urgen
wouldn't opensource be more 'barcamp?'
1:22pm
henrietteweberan
I would like the breakout rooms...
1:23pm
Ryan_Coleman
breakout rooms are always good
1:23pm
henrietteweberan
and then a statement that it wasn't considered rude to leave every 5 mins and go to another place..
1:23pm
Ryan_Coleman
even with 80 people at BarCampEarth Toronto we had 3 streams going all day + lounge area chatter
1:24pm
ericskiff
PodCampNYC has 600+ people coming. We're going to have some interesting challenges
1:25pm
urgen
instantaneous breakout rooms would be nice but that's always depends on resources :-)
1:25pm
henrietteweberan
ohh we're even called ugly tech pirate ninja's.. wonderful
1:25pm
urgen
people like to clump
1:25pm
ericskiff
We've got a lot of breakout rooms plus one giant auditorium where we'll all fit, but some of the rooms are far apart
1:25pm
urgen
don't over conference the unconference
1:25pm
ericskiff
right
1:30pm
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1:39pm
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1:43pm
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1:46pm
horsepigcow
i leave and everyone starts talking about clumps
1:46pm
horsepigcow
;)
1:46pm
urgen
:-)
1:55pm
horsepigcow
BarCampDayOf: http://www.barcamp.org/BarCampDayOf (created by Micah and Shimon)
1:55pm
horsepigcow
Misha
1:55pm
horsepigcow
oops
1:56pm
xpo
hey horsepigcow
1:57pm
shimon
hi peeps
1:57pm
horsepigcow
Google doc: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfj8ndx4_5c4kq8r (for the stuff Erica and I are working on)
1:57pm
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1:58pm
henrietteweberan
Im leaving people, quality time with the fam - be good *s*
1:58pm
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1:58pm
horsepigcow
For factoryjoe http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfj8ndx4_5c4kq8r
1:59pm
xpo
hi factoryjoe
2:00pm
factoryjoe
hi
2:00pm
xpo
is louis
2:00pm
shimon
needs to send out reminder email for BarCampBoston2
2:00pm
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2:00pm
xpo
how was this barcampPlannersSummit ?
2:01pm
shimon
xpo: still going, and it's good
2:01pm
factoryjoe
still on
2:01pm
factoryjoe
;)
2:01pm
xpo
yeah
2:01pm
xpo
I'm so sad I had to get back from Austin to Burgundy and miss that :(
2:01pm
shimon
i'm not sure exactly what we'll end up with, but it'll probably be a handbook of some sort that pulls together lots of organizers' experience, blog posts, etc.
2:02pm
xpo
excellent.. barcampKits
2:04pm
horsepigcow
We are still kind of all over the map, but have been working hard
2:04pm
horsepigcow
requests?
2:04pm
horsepigcow
comments?
2:04pm
horsepigcow
experiences?
2:04pm
factoryjoe
we started here: http://barcamp.org/Roles
2:05pm
factoryjoe
but we have lots of more notes
2:07pm
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2:07pm
anselm
helo
2:07pm
horsepigcow
hello anselm!
2:07pm
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2:07pm
anselm
hey!
2:07pm
anselm
nice to see you here
2:07pm
anselm
(we met at that tech party thing in sillycon valley)
2:07pm
horsepigcow
to back up...some progress for today: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfj8ndx4_5c4kq8r and http://barcamp.org/Roles and http://www.barcamp.org/BarCampDayOf
2:07pm
horsepigcow
sillycon!
2:07pm
horsepigcow
nice
2:08pm
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2:08pm
anselm
i wanted to mention something that might impact your scheduling
2:08pm
anselm
which is that yahoo has offered us (geowanker types) to host us for a geo camp on june 2/3 in sf
2:08pm
anselm
between where 2.0 and digital earth
2:08pm
anselm
dunno what you guys have planned but... just mentioning.
2:08pm
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2:09pm
horsepigcow
cool
2:09pm
1Misha
hello!
2:09pm
horsepigcow
I heart geowankering
2:09pm
anselm
yeah we're having a lot of fun lately; this may be the year it all finally "works"
2:10pm
factoryjoe
hey 1Misha
2:10pm
anselm
i like the dorkbot style wiki
2:10pm
anselm
its nice
2:10pm
factoryjoe
anselm: url?
2:10pm
anselm
http://www.barcamp.org/
2:11pm
horsepigcow
yeah, a little too dorkbot methinks
2:12pm
shimon
i don't get it. what does the wiki have to do with dorkbot?
2:12pm
anselm
dorkbot has a similar wiki
2:12pm
factoryjoe
yeah, dorkbot?
2:13pm
shimon
oh, just pbwiki
2:13pm
anselm
me shrugs
2:13pm
anselm
i saw the sidebar
2:13pm
factoryjoe
ah
2:13pm
factoryjoe
is dorkbot on pbwiki?
2:13pm
anselm
and crotcheted schedules etc reminded me of dorkbot
2:13pm
shimon
btw, we've had horrible experiences with pbwiki being unreliable, slow, and out of our control (e.g. locking pages temporarily). we're almost certainly going to run our own wiki on barcampboston.org for the next bcboston
2:14pm
horsepigcow
Actually, interesting thing to look at would be the evolution of other organizations/communities
2:15pm
shimon
horsepigcow: do you have a particular example in mind?
2:15pm
anselm
i'd love to tap some of this communities expertise for our wherecamp ; will remember this room and drop by later on
2:15pm
ericaogrady
Instiki?
2:15pm
anselm
actually i guess i'll just leave my proxy on
2:15pm
ericaogrady
It's a Rails based wiki.
2:15pm
horsepigcow
Well, I was just looking at http://www.dorkbot.org
2:15pm
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2:15pm
xpo
instiki is a good one yes
2:16pm
horsepigcow
and realizing that they structure theirs in an interesting way
2:17pm
horsepigcow
I mean, dorkbot is obviously too dorkbot for some of our community members
2:17pm
horsepigcow
but i do like the idea of the map on the homepage
2:17pm
1Misha
What's "too dorkbot" about dorkbot?
2:17pm
anselm
hm, mine is going to stomp on barcamp sacremento
2:17pm
horsepigcow
although it ain't clickable
2:17pm
shimon
i'm not sure what the colorings mean
2:18pm
anselm
to me it means 'ooh pretty' but i am sure it has some more meaning than that
2:18pm
horsepigcow
well, have you clicked through to some of the satellite pages? Hard to navigate. Way geeky
2:18pm
1Misha
colorings = biodiversity: http://www.nhm.ac.uk/research-curation/projects/worldmap/diversity/c1.htm
2:19pm
horsepigcow
wisdom in these crowds
2:19pm
horsepigcow
;)
2:19pm
1Misha
(I think "ooh pretty" is a fair understanding of the meaning...)
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2:31pm
horsepigcow
Okay, I want to put the call out...
2:31pm
horsepigcow
for all BarCamp Planners to make an inventory list of stuff they've got
2:31pm
horsepigcow
that is available for borrowing by other BarCamps
2:31pm
horsepigcow
I'll email the list as well
2:33pm
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2:38pm
ericaogrady
HEY ZACK ;0
2:38pm
ericaogrady
Welcome.
2:38pm
zackgilbert
hey erica! thanks.
2:39pm
ericaogrady
Zack -- we're trying to come up with an inventory list of stuff other BarCamps may have left over. To share - or reuse.
2:40pm
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2:41pm
ericaogrady
Also -- looking at alternatives ways of presenting info about BarCamp (alternate wiki such as instiki -- other ways to coordinate BarCamp efforts, etc).
2:42pm
zackgilbert
Ok. I'll be sure to contribute where I can.
2:43pm
zackgilbert
Is this list of supplies? Or of give-a-way stuff? That kind of "stuff"? Or is this more of an ideas/topics list?
2:44pm
ericaogrady
List of left over supplies.
2:45pm
ericaogrady
We're also coming up with a list of "Master Sponsors" from past barcamps (which would also lead to things like swag - etc). Like the Flickr stuff we got for BarCampRochester
2:46pm
zackgilbert
Wonderful.
2:52pm
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2:53pm
zackgilbert
For types of spaced used, I know we used RIT's familities for BarcampRochester. So would class rooms/university auditoriums be something to add?
2:53pm
ericaogrady
Tyler ;)
2:53pm
ericaogrady
Actually -- that's a terrific idea Zack.
2:53pm
ericaogrady
A space database ;)
2:53pm
rtyler
II think barcamp's need more black peoples
2:53pm
rtyler
ducks
2:54pm
ericaogrady
@Tyler -- we were just discussing diversity.
2:54pm
ericaogrady
Are you in Austin still?
2:54pm
rtyler
I know, thus the silly quip
2:55pm
factoryjoe
rtyler: not sure how silly that would sound for folks of color in the channel
2:55pm
factoryjoe
personally, i think we need more lanky dorks, but that's just me. ;)
2:56pm
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2:56pm
rtyler
factoryjoe: I just don't like the idea of saying "we need more $TYPE_OF_PERSON" at all, it goes against the basis of BarCamp (i think) which is, come and participate if you wish
2:56pm
RachelC
factory joe..did you say dorky yanks?
2:56pm
rtyler
RachelC: we've already got too many of thems ;)
2:57pm
ericaogrady
rtyler: right -- but what if we're missing out on great ideas and connections because we are creating an environment where only a specific type of person feel comfortable?
2:57pm
factoryjoe
rtyler: sure, but we're not into tokenism
2:57pm
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2:57pm
factoryjoe
ericaogrady++
2:58pm
factoryjoe
we're interested in diversity because diversity is interesting
2:58pm
rtyler
that type of person seems to be geek who likes drinks, completely nonspecific methinks :P
2:58pm
rtyler
then by all means ericaogrady, drag more womens into the fray
2:58pm
ericaogrady
rtyler: I'm planning on it.
3:00pm
factoryjoe
indeed, as should we all. ;)
3:00pm
ericaogrady
This past BarCamp in Austin had more women than any of the previous BarCamps I've attended (and I'm not counting the cocktail waitresses).
3:00pm
rtyler
heh
3:01pm
rtyler
I just think forcing the issue is counter intuitive, frankly, I dont know too many folks that would be interested in the CarCamp idea at all that aren't lanky dorky guys :P
3:02pm
factoryjoe
you never know until you put in some legwork
3:02pm
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3:02pm
rtyler
I think if we start to push diversity a different direction, that'd be awesome; a larger proportion of systems and app developers
3:02pm
rtyler
factoryjoe: I'm speaking empirically, in that, the only peopple I've mentioned BCA2 too that were interested were the aforementioned nerdy types :P
3:03pm
rtyler
and with regards to tools
3:03pm
ericaogrady
I agree -- Plus -- technology (while a major focus of BarCamp -- doesn't have to be the only focus of these types of events. Plus -- technology effects most people's lives whether they want it to or not. We should target the curious -- and see where it leads.
3:03pm
rtyler
rock, you always choose rock
3:03pm
RachelC
I've had the same issue, trying to get non-lanky dorks attending, we need a better description, soundbite to attract, the 2min elevator pitch that attracts other types
3:04pm
ericaogrady
Rachel C: Jay F. came up with some awesome stuff this morning.
3:04pm
horsepigcow
well, with Web2Open, we are hand-picking a portion of the speakers
3:04pm
RachelC
when I explained I gave a talk on digital marketing, it got far more interesting to the people I was talking to, then tech
3:04pm
horsepigcow
'curating' for diversity...both in topics and in backgrounds
3:05pm
RachelC
erica - is it somewhere I can see?
3:05pm
horsepigcow
Quote by Jay: giving a voice to those who currently doesn't have a voice
3:05pm
horsepigcow
that's BarCamp
3:05pm
horsepigcow
and he said, "We have a voice now, so we can't stop here"
3:06pm
horsepigcow
oops
3:06pm
rtyler
Jay as in, drunk by 5:40 Jay, or the shorter one? :P
3:06pm
factoryjoe
quadmod
3:06pm
ericaogrady
Social Media Club has been very good at integrating not just techies -- but people interested in how technology and social media can impact their cause.
3:06pm
horsepigcow
bad grammar on my part: giving a voice to those who currently don't have a voice
3:09pm
factoryjoe
ericaogrady: how diverse is their community?
3:10pm
RachelC
the SMC in New York seems to be reasonably diverse
3:11pm
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3:11pm
blakehall
i'm sure y'all have read http://www.dashes.com/anil/2007/02/23/the_essentials_
3:12pm
factoryjoe
yep
3:13pm
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3:14pm
horsepigcow
I especially love the comment section. :|
3:14pm
ericaogrady
factoryjoe: journalists, pr folk, people in advertising, communication, sales, business, and tech.
3:15pm
factoryjoe
cool
3:15pm
factoryjoe
what are the goals?
3:15pm
horsepigcow
ericaogrady: ostensibly a more 'woman friendly' group
3:15pm
RachelC
http://www.socialmediaclub.org/
3:15pm
ericaogrady
All with one intent -- to learn about new social media (blogs, podcasts, etc --)
3:15pm
factoryjoe
I'm familiar -- just not sure what it does
3:16pm
factoryjoe
"Social Media Club is being organized for the purpose of sharing best practices, establishing ethics and standards, and for promoting media literacy. This is the beginning of a global conversation about building an organization and a community where the many diverse groups of people who care about social media can come together to discover, connect, share and learn."
3:16pm
RachelC
the last one in NYC went through how the various political campaigns were using social media, from presidential to local
3:17pm
ericaogrady
Moto -- If you get it -- share it.
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rtyler
i'd love to stay and chat, but as it turns out, it's lawyer-time
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rtyler
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3:34pm
markkuznicki
is there a wiki page for notes from the summit?
3:34pm
markkuznicki
sorry i missed most of the action
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alexdc
there was a social media club meetup in miami last night but i missed it
3:43pm
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3:52pm
factoryjoe
markkuznicki: we're working on it
3:52pm
factoryjoe
;)
3:52pm
markkuznicki
of course you are!
3:53pm
markkuznicki
:)
3:54pm
factoryjoe
look under Roles, BarCampDayOf and .... BarCampStuff?
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4:15pm
horsepigcow
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfj8ndx4_5c4kq8r
4:16pm
horsepigcow
BarCampStuff is not the description page, it's the page where people put what stuff they have to lend to new BarCamps
4:18pm
factoryjoe
oh
4:18pm
factoryjoe
how about BarCampLendingLibrary/
4:18pm
factoryjoe
?
4:26pm
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