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BarCampPlannersSummitIRC

Page history last edited by PBworks 17 years ago

10:25am

 

factoryjoe (n=factoryj@209-30-141-130.ded.swbell.net) joined the chat room.

 

10:25am

 

horsepigcow

BarCamp planners summit called to order

 

10:28am

 

Topic changed to "BarCampPlannersSummit is on" by factoryjoe.

 

10:46am

 

horsepigcow

Barcamp role: outreach coordinator

 

10:53am

 

blakehall (n=blakehal@24-159-243-196.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) joined the chat room.

 

10:53am

 

horsepigcow

hey blakehall

 

10:53am

 

blakehall

howdy

 

10:53am

 

factoryjoe

heya

 

10:53am

 

factoryjoe

where y'at?

 

10:54am

 

blakehall

madison, wi...

 

10:54am

 

blakehall

how's austin?

 

10:54am

 

horsepigcow

pretty nice

 

10:54am

 

horsepigcow

we're in a schwank hotel meeting about barcamp

 

10:54am

 

horsepigcow

I think it's kind of cute

 

10:54am

 

horsepigcow

:)

 

10:55am

 

factoryjoe

blakehall: are you involved with barcamp usa?

 

10:55am

 

blakehall

sounds familiar http://flickr.com/photos/blakehall/409006226/in/set-72157594566652394/

 

10:55am

 

blakehall

factoryjoe: not formally

 

10:55am

 

blakehall

still a bit of a cynic about the concept

 

10:55am

 

horsepigcow

(ditto)

 

10:56am

 

horsepigcow

Whereabouts are ya?

 

10:57am

 

blakehall

horsepigcow: madison, wisconsin

 

10:57am

 

horsepigcow

ah

 

10:57am

 

horsepigcow

you were part of BarCampMadison, then?

 

10:57am

 

horsepigcow

I heard it went very well

 

10:57am

 

blakehall

yep, not as large of a turnout as we hoped

 

10:57am

 

horsepigcow

it takes time to grow

 

10:57am

 

blakehall

but considering the weather i'd say it was a success

 

10:58am

 

factoryjoe

i'm also skeptical

 

10:58am

 

blakehall

and we've definitely learned for next time

 

10:58am

 

horsepigcow

we are actually talking a bit today about the tools and how to incentivize the people who sign up to follow through and attend

 

10:58am

 

blakehall

the madison rails group is working on a barcamp scheduling app

 

10:58am

 

factoryjoe

nice!

 

10:58am

 

blakehall

(meeting #2 is tonight)

 

10:58am

 

horsepigcow

I mean, the wiki is a very low commitment

 

10:59am

 

blakehall

we're hoping to do some type of event scheduling management + social networking stuff

 

10:59am

 

blakehall

horsepigcow: so true...

 

10:59am

 

horsepigcow

cool

 

11:00am

 

horsepigcow

yeah, have you ever used eventwax or eventbrite?

 

11:00am

 

blakehall

nope, i'll have to check them out

 

11:04am

 

joern (n=joern@host125-64-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined the chat room.

 

11:04am

 

horsepigcow

Agenda: the roles, diversity & the tools

 

11:05am

 

horsepigcow

Jay takes the roles

 

11:07am

 

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11:07am

 

shimon (n=shimon@tigris.renesys.com) joined the chat room.

 

11:07am

 

factoryjoe

yo yo

 

11:07am

 

alexdc

heya

 

11:08am

 

horsepigcow

hi alexdc!

 

11:08am

 

alexdc

hey tara!

 

11:08am

 

horsepigcow

thanks for joining us

 

11:09am

 

horsepigcow

We'd love your feedback...Erica and I are working on the tools

 

11:09am

 

shimon

hi folks

 

11:09am

 

horsepigcow

Did you use something other than the wii

 

11:09am

 

horsepigcow

wiki?

 

11:10am

 

alexdc

well, i used a blog and upcoming.org as well

 

11:10am

 

alexdc

barcamp.webpl.us

 

11:11am

 

horsepigcow

for all of your organizing?

 

11:11am

 

horsepigcow

you used the wiki? email? google docs? etc?

 

11:11am

 

alexdc

yes, but i directed people to sign up on the wiki, even though some signed up at upcoming

 

11:11am

 

alexdc

so overall i used a wiki, a blog, upcoming, and also googlegroups

 

11:11am

 

horsepigcow

cool

 

11:12am

 

alexdc

tara ... i've got lunch plans ... i'll be back in 30 mins. ... i'll be logging this ... ttyl

 

11:12am

 

blakehall

for barcampmadison we used a wiki, and googlegroups primarily (with posted notices on facebook, upcoming, eventful etc....)

 

11:13am

 

tbonnemann (n=tbonnema@wireless1.sns.gwu.edu) joined the chat room.

 

11:19am

 

factoryjoe

hey tbonnemann

 

11:19am

 

tbonnemann

howdy. ;-)

 

11:19am

 

tbonnemann

I'm listening to joe trippi and others at politics online in DC

 

11:19am

 

factoryjoe

nice!

 

11:19am

 

factoryjoe

we're taking a survey -- what tools have you used in organizing barcamp?

 

11:19am

 

tbonnemann

thinking of how to use twitter for political campaigs ...

 

11:19am

 

factoryjoe

heh

 

11:20am

 

tbonnemann

tools: wiki, phone, IM ...

 

11:20am

 

tbonnemann

are the first that come to mind. wiki to capture, IM/phone/skype to talk. less email.

 

11:24am

 

tantek

factoryjoe - what are the barcamp summit physical coordinates?

 

11:24am

 

factoryjoe

the driskill

 

11:24am

 

factoryjoe

lemme get url

 

11:25am

 

factoryjoe

604 Brazos Street, Austin, TX

 

11:25am

 

tantek

room?

 

11:26am

 

factoryjoe

we're upstairs

 

11:26am

 

horsepigcow

We are in the back

 

11:26am

 

factoryjoe

go through the restaurant

 

11:26am

 

horsepigcow

well, kind of upstairs

 

11:26am

 

horsepigcow

bar area

 

11:26am

 

factoryjoe

straight through the couch area

 

11:26am

 

factoryjoe

there's a staircase in front of you

 

11:26am

 

horsepigcow

halfway up the stairs and straight back

 

11:26am

 

factoryjoe

walk up the stairs (1 flight) and keep going straight

 

11:31am

 

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11:41am

 

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11:44am

 

horsepigcow

hey RachelC!

 

11:44am

 

RachelC

morning Tara

 

11:44am

 

horsepigcow

howzit going?

 

11:45am

 

horsepigcow

Are you in NYC?

 

11:45am

 

RachelC

back at work :(

 

11:45am

 

horsepigcow

bummer

 

11:45am

 

RachelC

wishing I was still down there

 

11:45am

 

horsepigcow

yeah, it would be great to have you here!

 

11:46am

 

horsepigcow

Erica and I are discussing the tools for setting up a barcamp

 

11:46am

 

horsepigcow

any additional ones you can think of beyond the obvious?

 

11:46am

 

RachelC

any audio stream..or is it just later?

 

11:47am

 

RachelC

the obviousd being wiki/blog/IM/groups/project management tool?

 

11:47am

 

RachelC

with Skype for voice chat

 

11:47am

 

RachelC

and google web apps for shared spreadsheets/docs etc

 

11:48am

 

horsepigcow

awesome

 

11:48am

 

RachelC

anything beyonfd that I', seeign them having a specialised need for the barcamp..so would not be inthe normal range

 

11:48am

 

horsepigcow

we are recording it right now, but it's not streaming

 

11:49am

 

RachelC

I'll listen later then ;)

 

11:49am

 

horsepigcow

thanks for that!

 

11:49am

 

horsepigcow

it seems that many use google docs et al

 

11:49am

 

horsepigcow

We are putting together a 'toolkit'

 

11:49am

 

horsepigcow

any advice?

 

11:51am

 

RachelC

yep...work on the howto as well. screencasts of what to do. don;t assume the organisers know how to use the tools, especially as the concept spreads beyond tech

 

11:51am

 

blakehall

one of the things we've struggled with is the maintenance of a scheduling grid during the event.

 

11:51am

 

blakehall

physical vs online

 

11:51am

 

blakehall

how to handle changes etc.

 

11:52am

 

RachelC

I always thought the offline wall grid worked well...are you looking for an online tool to supplement that?

 

11:53am

 

blakehall

yep

 

11:53am

 

blakehall

especially if you're spread out in a space it's somewhat inconvenient to have to revisit the wall grid

 

11:54am

 

blakehall

i think it's really a space dependent issue

 

11:54am

 

RachelC

'public' terminal next to grid, everytime you change the grid you have to change the calender (assuming something like google cal). opr even the wall grid is the online grifd, just projected all day, so you have to chagne the online to cahgne the offline

 

11:55am

 

horsepigcow

yeah, we've definitely considered a way that the grid can be automated. Hmmmm...that would be cool.

 

11:55am

 

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11:56am

 

horsepigcow

Erica just told me that someone here (Lindsey Simon) is working on it

 

11:56am

 

horsepigcow

Know anyone else?

 

11:56am

 

RachelC

you have to hav ethe same grid for on and offline, otherwise a 2 step process only gets followed by some

 

11:56am

 

horsepigcow

totally

 

11:56am

 

blakehall

yep

 

11:56am

 

horsepigcow

In the past, we assigned someone the role of duplicating it on the wiki

 

11:56am

 

horsepigcow

...but it changes so often

 

11:57am

 

horsepigcow

Erica just suggested: what if the grid is a projected image?

 

11:57am

 

blakehall

not to mention that's not a *fun* job

 

11:57am

 

horsepigcow

totally

 

11:57am

 

blakehall

downside = "wasted" projector

 

11:57am

 

horsepigcow

Yeah...

 

11:58am

 

horsepigcow

and a laptop that needs to be dedicated

 

11:58am

 

RachelC

RFID's on session cards placed on a location sensitive wall, updating automatically! Fun idea, would love to build, just not practical :)

 

11:58am

 

horsepigcow

But we've also been talking for a while about putting together a toolkit (event in a box) to send around

 

11:58am

 

horsepigcow

RFID...nice

 

11:58am

 

horsepigcow

How complicated is that now?

 

11:59am

 

RachelC

it's doable (reader, writer, feeed to calender) but probably not thatcheap.

 

12:00pm

 

RachelC

on a barcamp budget

 

12:00pm

 

horsepigcow

yeah

 

12:00pm

 

horsepigcow

Anyone had any issues with people coming and not participating? Any ways you encouraged it?

 

12:01pm

 

blakehall

it would be ideal to just convince presenters to project the grid from each session room at the end of the session... (bonus points for somehow automating the process)

 

12:01pm

 

horsepigcow

yeah

 

12:01pm

 

horsepigcow

that would be pretty lightweight

 

12:01pm

 

RachelC

on the grid, I think comiong up with a number of solutions, to be used deoending on kit available, people and logistics of space

 

12:02pm

 

RachelC

not sure if one ideal solution is there yet

 

12:02pm

 

horsepigcow

yeah

 

12:03pm

 

ericskiff (n=chatzill@207-237-37-229.c3-0.nyr-ubr4.nyr.ny.static.cable.rcn.com) joined the chat room.

 

12:03pm

 

horsepigcow

ericskiff!

 

12:03pm

 

horsepigcow

good to have you here!

 

12:03pm

 

horsepigcow

hi from Erica

 

12:03pm

 

RachelC

you found us then eric

 

12:03pm

 

horsepigcow

:)

 

12:03pm

 

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12:04pm

 

ericskiff

Wish i was there in the flesh :)

 

12:04pm

 

horsepigcow

totally

 

12:04pm

 

markkuznicki

mark from toronto in da house

 

12:04pm

 

horsepigcow

Eric, had any issues with people coming and not participating? Any ways you encouraged it?

 

12:04pm

 

horsepigcow

Mark!

 

12:04pm

 

horsepigcow

Hola mi amigo!

 

12:04pm

 

markkuznicki

hello!

 

12:04pm

 

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12:04pm

 

horsepigcow

Howz OpenCities coming along?

 

12:05pm

 

markkuznicki

opencities is coming along nicely....

 

12:05pm

 

horsepigcow

cool

 

12:05pm

 

horsepigcow

is the date still late June?

 

12:05pm

 

markkuznicki

next week we have a 15-20 person brainstorm session on what "open" means

 

12:05pm

 

markkuznicki

yep, June 23rd

 

12:05pm

 

horsepigcow

cool

 

12:05pm

 

horsepigcow

I think we are skipping Tel Aviv and coming to T-dot

 

12:06pm

 

markkuznicki

we still have to nail down the venue...

 

12:06pm

 

markkuznicki

wikkid!

 

12:06pm

 

ericskiff

BarCampNYCII definitely had a bit of a different flavor than the first, and we had some open slots in the schedule.

 

12:06pm

 

RachelC

on the going and not participating...got to reduce the scariness. they may not have presented, they feel overawede by the knowledge. so one way may be moderated show and tell sessions, get people to open up in small groups

 

12:06pm

 

RachelC

without having to do a presentation...reduce the scare factor

 

12:06pm

 

RachelC

if they can open up and see that people are interested, then they may be encouraged

 

12:06pm

 

horsepigcow

Do you think mentors (people who have presented before making certain they ask newbies to present or co-present) would help?

 

12:07pm

 

ericskiff

As barcamp's brand grows, people who aren't already part of our community may show up, and not know any of the other presenters

 

12:07pm

 

ericskiff

I think mentors are a great idea

 

12:07pm

 

horsepigcow

Yeah

 

12:07pm

 

RachelC

mentors would be good, but as eric says, the pairing up can be a challenge

 

12:07pm

 

horsepigcow

At BarCamp SF, some of the same people gave 3 or 4 presentations, but they could have asked new people to be part of these

 

12:07pm

 

ericskiff

Actually, my teamup with John Resig for my first presentation was huge

 

12:07pm

 

horsepigcow

nice

 

12:08pm

 

horsepigcow

If we had a bit more time for those morning hallway conversations, we could find out what newbies are interested in

 

12:08pm

 

ericskiff

It made a ton of difference for me, because it gave me extra motivation to make it good

 

12:08pm

 

horsepigcow

yeah

 

12:08pm

 

blakehall

we did some kinds of "tool share" kinds of sessions that were low-barrier of entry

 

12:08pm

 

blakehall

that seemed to work well

 

12:08pm

 

horsepigcow

Cool. Did you specify the tools?

 

12:08pm

 

blakehall

yeah, demos and all ;)

 

12:09pm

 

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12:09pm

 

horsepigcow

I wonder if a "show and tell" session would help

 

12:09pm

 

horsepigcow

Where people each have 5-10 minutes ... like lightening rounds

 

12:09pm

 

horsepigcow

Has anyone been to Ignite?

 

12:10pm

 

ericskiff

We're really trying to encourage team-ups with PodCampNYC - lots of folks are presenting loosely the same material, so panels and collaborations are great. It's also a great way for the presenters to really get to know other experts on their topic

 

12:10pm

 

RachelC

i think it would, you have to break 2 potentials bariers - 'i hate presenting' and 'no ones interested in what i have to say'. so smaller, 'safer' sessions are good

 

12:10pm

 

horsepigcow

cool

 

12:10pm

 

blakehall

one of the ideas i wanted to try for madison (but didn't) was to have a half hour of speed sessions (5-10min) every three or four hours to "preview" upcoming sessions, or just demo some cool thing

 

12:11pm

 

horsepigcow

that's a great idea

 

12:11pm

 

ericskiff

I really like that preview idea blake

 

12:11pm

 

horsepigcow

At FOO, they asked us to give our name, company + 3 tags that described the work we wanted to present on. People in the audience had to yell out 'Present' if they wanted to see it. Almost everyone had some 'Present's yelled at them.

 

12:12pm

 

markkuznicki

that's cool

 

12:12pm

 

markkuznicki

i like tags

 

12:12pm

 

ericskiff

That's cool as well - early encouragement that people want to see your topic

 

12:12pm

 

horsepigcow

Exactly

 

12:12pm

 

markkuznicki

and audience participation

 

12:12pm

 

horsepigcow

I think that people wanted to encourage one another

 

12:12pm

 

RachelC

breaks down the idea that no one is interested,

 

12:12pm

 

akalsey

Startup camp had a list of possible presentations on the wiki. I think getting the first few on there encouraged other people to put ideas up.

 

12:13pm

 

horsepigcow

and it felt like there were more 'Presents' for odd or different topics and definitely more encouragement for people nobody had heard from before

 

12:13pm

 

horsepigcow

hey akalsey - startupcamp rockz

 

12:14pm

 

akalsey

It was a little weird having an unconference planned and managed by a conference company, but yeah, it was great.

 

12:14pm

 

horsepigcow

I like the ideas, anyway

 

12:15pm

 

akalsey

It wasn't full of the usual suspects in the Bay Area so I got to meet a wide variety of folks.

 

12:15pm

 

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12:15pm

 

horsepigcow

g'day willpate

 

12:17pm

 

akalsey

As BarCamp Sac nears, I'm going to be hitting the registered attendees up for their presentation ideas. Not just stuff they want to present, but stuff they want others to present.

 

12:17pm

 

horsepigcow

I think will just killed the conversation. ;)

 

12:17pm

 

horsepigcow

lol

 

12:18pm

 

RachelC

no, just regrouping the mind

 

12:18pm

 

akalsey

I'll stick that on the wiki and hope it drives interest in leading some sessions.

 

12:18pm

 

horsepigcow

akalsey: good idea. Do you use a mailing list? or just the wiki

 

12:18pm

 

horsepigcow

lol

 

12:18pm

 

horsepigcow

We've been discussing how the wiki is kind of a graveyard of information

 

12:18pm

 

horsepigcow

That email reminds and refreshes...or IM...some have used EventWax or EventBrite to send out follow up emails

 

12:18pm

 

markkuznicki

we have had that issue with transitcamp....

 

12:19pm

 

horsepigcow

Yeah, Micah is here :)

 

12:19pm

 

markkuznicki

the wiki was used a lot on the day, but not much happened after...the

 

12:19pm

 

blakehall

i think we've all become used to more personal tools (than wikis)...

 

12:19pm

 

akalsey

Both. We're hosting BarCamp under the auspices of a fledgling professional organization here, so we have the tech resources already in place for communication

 

12:19pm

 

akalsey

Blogs, forums, mailing lists...

 

12:19pm

 

horsepigcow

nice

 

12:19pm

 

horsepigcow

I heart the Toronto BarCamp skype channel, too...

 

12:19pm

 

horsepigcow

I think it really keeps the community in touch

 

12:20pm

 

markkuznicki

skype chatswarm is NUTS

 

12:20pm

 

markkuznicki

it's a whole new level, imho

 

12:20pm

 

markkuznicki

thanks will pate!

 

12:20pm

 

horsepigcow

yeah

 

12:20pm

 

horsepigcow

willpate?

 

12:20pm

 

markkuznicki

we create ad hoc spin-off chatrooms on any idea that has stickiness in the main swarm

 

12:20pm

 

akalsey

I'm going to be opening up a Jabber conference room or two during BarCamp. Perhaps I can stream the session logs to a web site.

 

12:20pm

 

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12:21pm

 

horsepigcow

akalsey: will you document that on the site?

 

12:21pm

 

willpate

yeh?:)

 

12:21pm

 

horsepigcow

Hey! Was wondering if this willpate was just a robot...:)

 

12:21pm

 

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12:21pm

 

blakehall

i'll have to look at using skype. we just had an irc channel (which worked well too)

 

12:21pm

 

akalsey

Also, we're going to simulcast all the sessions on the web.

 

12:21pm

 

akalsey

Using Speakr

 

12:21pm

 

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12:21pm

 

markkuznicki

here come the toronto swarmies now... hi Ryan Coleman - founder of VizThink - a camp for visual thinking

 

12:21pm

 

horsepigcow

even better akalsey: will you email it to barcamp@googlegroups.com

 

12:21pm

 

akalsey

horsepigcow: sure, as I get some details

 

12:22pm

 

horsepigcow

Nice...I met the guy behind Speakr a while ago

 

12:22pm

 

willpate

c'est moi

 

12:22pm

 

willpate

hehe, a love-bot

 

12:22pm

 

horsepigcow

Hi Ryan_Coleman!

 

12:22pm

 

Ryan_Coleman

hullo...

 

12:23pm

 

akalsey

I'm trying to decide if I pre-create Jabber rooms for each physical room at the site, or let people create their own as they want.

 

12:23pm

 

horsepigcow

For those of you who don't know, Speakr is a tool that makes Webex much more accessible for us

 

12:23pm

 

akalsey

Advantages of pre-creating the rooms is that we can post the JIDs on the wall next to the sessions

 

12:23pm

 

horsepigcow

Yeah...projecting the backchannel. ;)

 

12:23pm

 

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12:23pm

 

markkuznicki

welcome tom purves - founder of EnterpriseCamp

 

12:23pm

 

thomaspurves

hi all

 

12:23pm

 

horsepigcow

Hey thomaspurves

 

12:23pm

»

markkuznicki

 

chuckles at the Toronto takeover of #barcamp

 

12:24pm

 

henrietteweberan (n=henriett@port555.ds1-gl.adsl.cybercity.dk) joined the chat room.

 

12:24pm

 

horsepigcow

Those Torontonians...who knew.

 

12:24pm

 

henrietteweberan

hi guys

 

12:24pm

 

horsepigcow

allo henriette!

 

12:24pm

 

markkuznicki

hi henriette - live from Copenhagen!

 

12:24pm

 

henrietteweberan

bonjour mrs. rogue..

 

12:24pm

 

horsepigcow

someone announced something in the skype swarm. ;)

 

12:24pm

 

horsepigcow

Mr. Remarkkable?

 

12:25pm

 

akalsey

horsepigcow: Yes, I was talking with David from Speakr about you. (he lives near me) He says hi.

 

12:25pm

 

henrietteweberan

*yep* in the middle of a family dinner - but I needed to check the summit out..

 

12:25pm

»

alexdc

 

waves at henriette

 

12:25pm

»

willpate

 

high fives all

 

12:25pm

 

horsepigcow

Alright...since there is more of a mass here now. Erica O'Grady and I are in charge (during the BCPlanners summit break outs) of working on the toolbox.

 

12:25pm

 

henrietteweberan

Hi Alex you in here as well ?

 

12:25pm

»

akalsey

 

forgot to put his hand up and was high fived in the forehead instead.

 

12:26pm

 

henrietteweberan

so hows it coming along -what are you discussing

 

12:26pm

 

horsepigcow

Well, we will make the google doc totally public right away

 

12:26pm

 

ericskiff

well - here's a questions for all of you. Wireless is proving to be very difficult to provide at The New School for podcamp NYC. We consider it a dealbreaker, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on that. Can you have a barcamp without wifi?

 

12:26pm

 

horsepigcow

ericskiff: yes you can

 

12:26pm

»

markkuznicki

 

is guilty as charged

 

12:26pm

 

horsepigcow

just set expectations

 

12:27pm

 

horsepigcow

We did winecamp sans wifi OR power for the first day

 

12:27pm

 

henrietteweberan

Eric : I would say yes

 

12:27pm

 

henrietteweberan

the cool part of a barcamp is the outsiders peeking in all the time

 

12:27pm

 

horsepigcow

it led to more engaged conversations

 

12:27pm

 

akalsey

ericskiff: Try contacting some local EVDO providers and see if they can give you EVDO for the presenters at least.

 

12:27pm

 

henrietteweberan

I want to go to a winecamp too..

 

12:28pm

 

willpate

the frenchman in me <3's wine

 

12:28pm

 

alexdc

we had issues with wifi as well at the university of miami. the compromise was that there was a registration process for those who wanted to use wifi

 

12:28pm

 

Ryan_Coleman

eric: the last camp up here had flaky wifi which progressed into none by EOD... only one person was badly affected (couldn't do pres) but the day rolled along

 

12:28pm

 

ericskiff

Ya - I'm starting to wonder if we're focusing too much on it. I imagine there will be both good and bad outcomes from not having it

 

12:29pm

 

henrietteweberan

we had wifi at Copenhagen - but only a small startup office with 10 people..

 

12:29pm

 

henrietteweberan

I saved the crammed space by making cookies...

 

12:29pm

 

RachelC

set the expectations early enough

 

12:29pm

 

Ryan_Coleman

everyone will have to wait to get home before they see photos of themselves up on Flickr ;)

 

12:29pm

 

ericskiff

Heh :)

 

12:29pm

 

henrietteweberan

we could flickrbooth them *s* and tag them

 

12:29pm

 

henrietteweberan

then we have photos...

 

12:30pm

 

horsepigcow

Flickrbooth is an awesome idea

 

12:31pm

 

ericskiff

Wow - I love the idae of a flickrbooth at the event anyway! :)

 

12:31pm

 

akalsey

If I have a spare projector I was thinking about projecting a tagstream of BarCampSac tags on the wall.

 

12:31pm

 

akalsey

Anything on Flickr, blogs, etc

 

12:31pm

 

horsepigcow

We had our Mac Mini set up at the Ma.gnolia 1st anniversary party to take shots of everyone coming in

 

12:31pm

 

henrietteweberan

http://www.flickr.com/photos/redsoda/422232375/

 

12:32pm

 

henrietteweberan

oh and I even forgot to put on my brand new glasses..

 

12:32pm

 

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12:32pm

 

henrietteweberan

I like the flickrbooth idea of a camp as well... it would be an excellent idea to capture - well people instantly..

 

12:33pm

 

henrietteweberan

I guess I am a sucker for instant things.. impulsive and unplanned

 

12:35pm

 

markkuznicki

to eric's question about wifi access, the wireless toronto people have a roaming battery powered wifi backup that repeats wimax to wifi, completely portable....

 

12:35pm

 

horsepigcow

does everyone else have an issue with people who sign up on the wiki and don't bother to show up? How do you deal with it?

 

12:36pm

 

henrietteweberan

at CPH we had 25 signing up and only 10 showing up..

 

12:36pm

 

markkuznicki

i think that signing off on some kinds of code of participation is important...

 

12:36pm

 

horsepigcow

markkuznicki: that's awesome...would you be able to produce a bunch of those that we could have each region 'own' to send around to different camps?

 

12:36pm

 

henrietteweberan

I guess you can't do anything about it..

 

12:36pm

 

akalsey

If there's no cost, people will do that. They need to value their signup a little.

 

12:36pm

 

RachelC

name and shame??? that may work. but not the best

 

12:36pm

 

ericskiff

markkuznicki: we're definitely working along those lines, hoping to partner with towerstream

 

12:36pm

 

horsepigcow

We were talking about requiring an email somehow: eventwax or eventbrite

 

12:36pm

 

RachelC

there's no 'value' in signing up. If free there is less investment

 

12:36pm

 

akalsey

We've toyed with the idea of charging a tiny fee -- $5-10 US -- to come

 

12:36pm

 

horsepigcow

to follow up

 

12:37pm

 

ericskiff

wimax to the roof -> wifi from the termination point

 

12:37pm

 

henrietteweberan

I always make some kind of statement on my blog or on the wiki saying that it's not okay..

 

12:37pm

 

horsepigcow

does anyone use reminder emails?

 

12:37pm

 

RachelC

akalsey - wer you planing on giving it back when they came?

 

12:37pm

 

akalsey

RachelC: we were going to use it for shirts

 

12:37pm

 

henrietteweberan

even though it proven that people are taking it personal when you "attack" them on a public page...

 

12:37pm

 

horsepigcow

I'll bet! ;)

 

12:38pm

 

akalsey

That way anyone who shows up the day of the event without pre-registering just doesn't get a shirt.

 

12:38pm

 

horsepigcow

akalsey: that's a good idea

 

12:38pm

 

blakehall

we did a scrape of the wiki and sent out a reminder for those folks

 

12:38pm

 

RachelC

they got the value if they arrived - that would probably trigger attendance more than no commitment

 

12:38pm

 

blakehall

(because we did dinner and the comedy club the night before)

 

12:38pm

 

henrietteweberan

half of the people not showing up did it 3-4 hours before the venue...

 

12:38pm

 

ericskiff

BarCampNYC has discussed charging as well, much more to encourage actually showing up than to generate $

 

12:38pm

 

akalsey

horsepigcow: We're using the same signup system we use for our other events. It takes names, emails, and phone numbers, and automatically sends a reminder a few days before the event.

 

12:39pm

 

horsepigcow

akalsey, what do you use? Is it your own?

 

12:41pm

 

markkuznicki

barcampers interested in the wifi backpack should contact http://wirelesstoronto.ca/ and find your local community wireless group to replicate the device

 

12:41pm

 

urgen

unless you have tons of extra shirts and left with the bill

 

12:41pm

 

ericskiff

horsepigcow: yup - PodCampNYC has a registration system very similar to the first BarCampNYC

 

12:41pm

 

akalsey

We're using a semi-custom signup module for Drupal to handle that stuff.

 

12:41pm

 

ericskiff

is there wimax available to repeat?

 

12:41pm

 

urgen

other barcamps have sold the extra shirts

 

12:41pm

 

akalsey

horsepigcow: see above. I think we were typing at the same time

 

12:41pm

 

akalsey

See http://www.sacstarts.com/events/2007/06/02/barcamp-sacramento

 

12:41pm

 

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12:41pm

 

akalsey

Feel free to signup to test the system out. But let me know about it so I can delete the test signups. :)

 

12:42pm

 

horsepigcow

So, we are also wanting to coordinate an 'Event in a Box', where we take stuff donated to past BarCamps, put it on spreadsheets, publicize it for use by other Barcamps...probably organized regionally

 

12:42pm

 

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12:42pm

 

horsepigcow

(yeah...my wifi is flakey right now - ironically - so I may post intermittently)

 

12:42pm

 

henrietteweberan

@akalsey - Im trying it out.. but you can delete me again..

 

12:43pm

 

horsepigcow

markkuznicki: I'm adding that link to the tools page, but I also want to pre-manufacture these kits for future barcamp ease

 

12:43pm

 

ericskiff

horsepigcow: That sounds outstanding. Even things like mini-dvi->vga cables, powerstrips, and wifi routers would be a great start

 

12:43pm

 

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12:43pm

 

henrietteweberan

@akalsey - but if I am in sacramento - I will drop by

 

12:45pm

 

markkuznicki

ericskiff: apparently pre-standards wimax, in Canada offered by rogers: http://www.shoprogers.com/Store/Cable/InternetContent/portable_internet.asp; although i'm no expert

 

12:45pm

 

akalsey

henrietteweberan: you should get an email confirmation now. I'll delete your signup, but you'd also get a reminder 48 hours before the event start.

 

12:45pm

 

henrietteweberan

horsepigcow: what a cool idea..

 

12:45pm

 

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12:45pm

 

henrietteweberan

ohh that's fine.. I think I can manage

 

12:45pm

 

markkuznicki

horsepigcow: i think we know enough community wireless people distributed around to pull that together

 

12:45pm

 

horsepigcow

that would be awesome

 

12:45pm

 

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12:45pm

 

henrietteweberan

is there anyone else in her from europe ? ( apart from Rachel who doesn't count because she lives in NY?)

 

12:45pm

 

horsepigcow

I'd love to get more 'gel'd' right now...it's time

 

12:46pm

 

horsepigcow

A really cool quote by Jay F.: BarCamp is giving a voice to those who currently doesn't have a voice...we need to continue this beyond our group

 

12:46pm

 

horsepigcow

Google doc in progress; http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfj8ndx4_5c4kq8r

 

12:46pm

 

horsepigcow

If you would like to collaborate, drop me a line

 

12:47pm

 

horsepigcow

horsepigcow@gmail.com

 

12:47pm

 

horsepigcow

We're only just getting going

 

12:47pm

 

akalsey

horsepigcow: what ever happened to the wireless-in-a-box that Christopher Allen and company were working on at BarCampSF?

 

12:47pm

 

horsepigcow

It's part of it...but they didn't ever 'produce' it or test it

 

12:48pm

 

horsepigcow

or build it

 

12:48pm

 

horsepigcow

But we'll get the specs from them to actually produce it

 

12:48pm

 

horsepigcow

It may take capital, which will require a sponsor

 

12:48pm

 

akalsey

I hear Cisco has some extra cash lying around. :)

 

12:49pm

 

akalsey

And this would cost a LOT less than $3.2 billion

 

12:50pm

 

horsepigcow

lol

 

12:51pm

 

markkuznicki

definitely regionally

 

12:51pm

»

markkuznicki

 

ain't schleppin' crap to Winnepeg!

 

12:55pm

 

ericskiff

has anyone seen a mesh network actually work at an event?

 

12:55pm

 

akalsey

Yeah. Sasquatch was running it along with the Easter Bunny.

 

12:55pm

 

ericskiff

ol

 

12:55pm

 

ericskiff

lol

 

12:55pm

»

markkuznicki

 

is heading to a meeting, will check in later

 

12:57pm

 

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12:57pm

 

akalsey

Is anyone logging this channel from the beginning of the summit?

 

12:57pm

 

akalsey

So we can capture some of this stuff?

 

12:57pm

 

henrietteweberan

how come that most companies are sure that they can attract customers with flash movies ?

 

12:57pm

 

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12:57pm

 

henrietteweberan

what do you think is it appealing or is it just plain stupid..

 

12:57pm

 

henrietteweberan

hi pedro

 

12:57pm

 

pecus

hey henriette

 

12:57pm

 

thomaspurves

hey pedro

 

12:57pm

 

pecus

and everyone else

 

12:57pm

 

pecus

;)

 

12:57pm

 

RachelC

henriette...cos agencies can;t do anything else

 

12:57pm

 

akalsey

henrietteweberan: I don't understand what you're asking

 

12:57pm

 

ericskiff

henrietteweberan: it looks like "old media" commercials, which must be working if people are doing so much of it, right?

 

12:57pm

 

henrietteweberan

well at the company where I work, the most creative you can get is a flashmovie..

 

12:57pm

 

henrietteweberan

and it supposedly is the most sellable..

 

12:59pm

 

henrietteweberan

hey thomas

 

12:59pm

 

RachelC

I've tried to suggest peopel hear look at other metods, but that is the way the creatives think and the production skillset. adn that is a whole differnet rant to this discussion.. I could be here all day :(

 

12:59pm

 

henrietteweberan

Im here too..

 

12:59pm

 

henrietteweberan

I mean.. all day.. like..

 

12:59pm

 

henrietteweberan

or something

 

12:59pm

 

henrietteweberan

Im rambling again - never mind me *gg*

 

1:01pm

 

urgen

creative and taste are two different things

 

1:01pm

 

urgen

flash alone doesn't guarantee anything

 

1:01pm

 

henrietteweberan

@urgen : but that seems to be the general perception..

 

1:01pm

 

henrietteweberan

I mean if you sell food online - i guess a flashmovie is a good thing..

 

1:03pm

 

henrietteweberan

or is it ?

 

1:03pm

 

urgen

not if it frustrates

 

1:03pm

 

urgen

the quicker people move away from the web as brocureware the better

 

1:03pm

 

urgen

lets see I have this hot new macproquad and so it has 18000 pixels and a flash movie that is locked into 600 pixels shows up

 

1:03pm

 

urgen

impressive or not?

 

1:03pm

 

urgen

:-)

 

1:05pm

 

urgen

flash dunt flex

 

1:05pm

 

horsepigcow

I'm saving it

 

1:05pm

 

horsepigcow

Sorry...stepped away for a bit. :)

 

1:06pm

 

pecus

:)

 

1:08pm

 

pecus

hey tara :)

 

1:08pm

 

henrietteweberan

uuhh im on bloggerview - right after tara *s* what a claim to fame *gg*

 

1:08pm

 

akalsey

Geez, what sort of host are you anyway? Did you at least bring us back drinks?

 

1:08pm

 

pecus

hehe

 

1:08pm

 

pecus

cookies?

 

1:09pm

 

horsepigcow

no drinks

 

1:09pm

 

horsepigcow

no cookies

 

1:09pm

»

alexdc

 

manda um abraco a pedro! tudo bem?

 

1:09pm

»

akalsey

 

goes to make his own drink, then

 

1:09pm

»

akalsey

 

realizes it's only 11am and too early for a drink.

 

1:09pm

 

horsepigcow

sorry

 

1:10pm

 

horsepigcow

it's 1:10 pm here

 

1:10pm

 

henrietteweberan

I will make a drink - it's 7.10 pm here and I guess I am allowed then..

 

1:10pm

 

akalsey

It'

 

1:10pm

 

akalsey

It's true what they say. It's after 5pm somewhere

 

1:11pm

 

henrietteweberan

@akalsey : somewhere as in Denmark

 

1:11pm

 

horsepigcow

Maybe BarCamp just needs a flash intro. :P

 

1:11pm

 

horsepigcow

hey Henriette?

 

1:12pm

 

henrietteweberan

yep

 

1:13pm

 

akalsey

horsepigcow: With music! and no way to skip!

 

1:13pm

 

henrietteweberan

I think barcamp should have a flash intro..

 

1:13pm

 

henrietteweberan

you and chris could play guitars..

 

1:13pm

 

henrietteweberan

ohh and thanks for the drink guys http://www.flickr.com/photos/redsoda/422266295/

 

1:13pm

 

henrietteweberan

everybody could choose what they wanted to do themselves..

 

1:13pm

 

horsepigcow

One of those crazy flash intros where the navigation was a puzzle, eh?

 

1:13pm

 

henrietteweberan

I would wear a jesterhat and do the macarena..

 

1:13pm

 

henrietteweberan

that would be the coolest

 

1:13pm

 

henrietteweberan

kinda like the lost in lausanne video that pedro and I did at lift07

 

1:14pm

 

henrietteweberan

ohh that would be wonderful...

 

1:14pm

 

horsepigcow

It would be so Web 3.0

 

1:14pm

 

henrietteweberan

or we could do one like the intro of the brady bunch he he

 

1:14pm

 

RachelC

you're all scaring me now....

 

1:14pm

 

henrietteweberan

rachel should be announced queen ! - in the video..

 

1:15pm

 

blakehall

i thought web 3.0 included more ninjas?

 

1:15pm

 

akalsey

mystery meat navigation? I am SO in.

 

1:15pm

 

blakehall

or was that pirates?

 

1:16pm

 

horsepigcow

anyone on ichat?

 

1:16pm

 

akalsey

blakehall: Ninja pirate kittens.

 

1:16pm

 

blakehall

i'll have to re-read the api

 

1:16pm

 

akalsey

They're badass. And they're so cute, they sort of sneak up on ya

 

1:16pm

 

henrietteweberan

tech ninja pirate kittens..

 

1:16pm

 

horsepigcow

aol: sanfranrogue

 

1:16pm

 

akalsey

ROBOT ninja pirate kittens

 

1:16pm

 

blakehall

aim & gtalk here

 

1:16pm

 

henrietteweberan

Suw charman, me, martin roell and duarte grilo did a tech ninja google group after shift..

 

1:16pm

 

henrietteweberan

we still have it, haven't used it for anything..

 

1:16pm

 

henrietteweberan

I just wanted a tech ninja group

 

1:16pm

 

ericskiff

horsepigcow: I'm on ichat as fsck , had some trouble connecting to whurley via video tho

 

1:17pm

 

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1:17pm

 

blakehall

aol: quantumb8

 

1:17pm

 

horsepigcow

ericskiff: you have video?

 

1:17pm

 

ericskiff

horsepigcow: yup :)

 

1:18pm

 

RachelC

eric, now you'tre making be jealous

 

1:18pm

 

horsepigcow

bummer dude

 

1:19pm

 

ericskiff

Don't be too jealous :) All i get is connex errors

 

1:20pm

 

RachelC

lol..so you own have gthe possibility of video - it's quantum

 

1:20pm

 

henrietteweberan

if you were going to decorate a hallway - and you wanted it geeky - what would you put in there ?

 

1:20pm

 

akalsey

henrietteweberan: Tech ninjas? here: http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/A_True_Ninja_Hacker_Is_Like_The_Wind.aspx

 

1:21pm

 

horsepigcow

I'm eating lunch now, but keep talking 'cause I'm recording

 

1:21pm

 

ericskiff

One other thing I'd love to discuss with all you is "terminal size"

 

1:21pm

 

ericskiff

is there a point when a barcamp gets too big?

 

1:22pm

 

urgen

isn't there an opensource flash?

 

1:22pm

 

ericskiff

Would we be better off with a packed room of 100, or a sprawling event with lots of breakout rooms etc?

 

1:22pm

 

urgen

wouldn't opensource be more 'barcamp?'

 

1:22pm

 

henrietteweberan

I would like the breakout rooms...

 

1:23pm

 

Ryan_Coleman

breakout rooms are always good

 

1:23pm

 

henrietteweberan

and then a statement that it wasn't considered rude to leave every 5 mins and go to another place..

 

1:23pm

 

Ryan_Coleman

even with 80 people at BarCampEarth Toronto we had 3 streams going all day + lounge area chatter

 

1:24pm

 

ericskiff

PodCampNYC has 600+ people coming. We're going to have some interesting challenges

 

1:25pm

 

urgen

instantaneous breakout rooms would be nice but that's always depends on resources :-)

 

1:25pm

 

henrietteweberan

ohh we're even called ugly tech pirate ninja's.. wonderful

 

1:25pm

 

urgen

people like to clump

 

1:25pm

 

ericskiff

We've got a lot of breakout rooms plus one giant auditorium where we'll all fit, but some of the rooms are far apart

 

1:25pm

 

urgen

don't over conference the unconference

 

1:25pm

 

ericskiff

right

 

1:30pm

 

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1:39pm

 

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1:43pm

 

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1:46pm

 

horsepigcow

i leave and everyone starts talking about clumps

 

1:46pm

 

horsepigcow

;)

 

1:46pm

 

urgen

:-)

 

1:55pm

 

horsepigcow

BarCampDayOf: http://www.barcamp.org/BarCampDayOf (created by Micah and Shimon)

 

1:55pm

 

horsepigcow

Misha

 

1:55pm

 

horsepigcow

oops

 

1:56pm

 

xpo

hey horsepigcow

 

1:57pm

 

shimon

hi peeps

 

1:57pm

 

horsepigcow

Google doc: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfj8ndx4_5c4kq8r (for the stuff Erica and I are working on)

 

1:57pm

 

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1:58pm

 

henrietteweberan

Im leaving people, quality time with the fam - be good *s*

 

1:58pm

 

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1:58pm

 

horsepigcow

For factoryjoe http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfj8ndx4_5c4kq8r

 

1:59pm

 

xpo

hi factoryjoe

 

2:00pm

 

factoryjoe

hi

 

2:00pm

»

xpo

 

is louis

 

2:00pm

»

shimon

 

needs to send out reminder email for BarCampBoston2

 

2:00pm

 

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2:00pm

 

xpo

how was this barcampPlannersSummit ?

 

2:01pm

 

shimon

xpo: still going, and it's good

 

2:01pm

 

factoryjoe

still on

 

2:01pm

 

factoryjoe

;)

 

2:01pm

 

xpo

yeah

 

2:01pm

 

xpo

I'm so sad I had to get back from Austin to Burgundy and miss that :(

 

2:01pm

 

shimon

i'm not sure exactly what we'll end up with, but it'll probably be a handbook of some sort that pulls together lots of organizers' experience, blog posts, etc.

 

2:02pm

 

xpo

excellent.. barcampKits

 

2:04pm

 

horsepigcow

We are still kind of all over the map, but have been working hard

 

2:04pm

 

horsepigcow

requests?

 

2:04pm

 

horsepigcow

comments?

 

2:04pm

 

horsepigcow

experiences?

 

2:04pm

 

factoryjoe

we started here: http://barcamp.org/Roles

 

2:05pm

 

factoryjoe

but we have lots of more notes

 

2:07pm

 

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2:07pm

 

anselm

helo

 

2:07pm

 

horsepigcow

hello anselm!

 

2:07pm

 

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2:07pm

 

anselm

hey!

 

2:07pm

 

anselm

nice to see you here

 

2:07pm

 

anselm

(we met at that tech party thing in sillycon valley)

 

2:07pm

 

horsepigcow

to back up...some progress for today: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfj8ndx4_5c4kq8r and http://barcamp.org/Roles and http://www.barcamp.org/BarCampDayOf

 

2:07pm

 

horsepigcow

sillycon!

 

2:07pm

 

horsepigcow

nice

 

2:08pm

 

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2:08pm

 

anselm

i wanted to mention something that might impact your scheduling

 

2:08pm

 

anselm

which is that yahoo has offered us (geowanker types) to host us for a geo camp on june 2/3 in sf

 

2:08pm

 

anselm

between where 2.0 and digital earth

 

2:08pm

 

anselm

dunno what you guys have planned but... just mentioning.

 

2:08pm

 

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2:09pm

 

horsepigcow

cool

 

2:09pm

 

1Misha

hello!

 

2:09pm

 

horsepigcow

I heart geowankering

 

2:09pm

 

anselm

yeah we're having a lot of fun lately; this may be the year it all finally "works"

 

2:10pm

 

factoryjoe

hey 1Misha

 

2:10pm

 

anselm

i like the dorkbot style wiki

 

2:10pm

 

anselm

its nice

 

2:10pm

 

factoryjoe

anselm: url?

 

2:10pm

 

anselm

http://www.barcamp.org/

 

2:11pm

 

horsepigcow

yeah, a little too dorkbot methinks

 

2:12pm

 

shimon

i don't get it. what does the wiki have to do with dorkbot?

 

2:12pm

 

anselm

dorkbot has a similar wiki

 

2:12pm

 

factoryjoe

yeah, dorkbot?

 

2:13pm

 

shimon

oh, just pbwiki

 

2:13pm

 

anselm

me shrugs

 

2:13pm

 

anselm

i saw the sidebar

 

2:13pm

 

factoryjoe

ah

 

2:13pm

 

factoryjoe

is dorkbot on pbwiki?

 

2:13pm

 

anselm

and crotcheted schedules etc reminded me of dorkbot

 

2:13pm

 

shimon

btw, we've had horrible experiences with pbwiki being unreliable, slow, and out of our control (e.g. locking pages temporarily). we're almost certainly going to run our own wiki on barcampboston.org for the next bcboston

 

2:14pm

 

horsepigcow

Actually, interesting thing to look at would be the evolution of other organizations/communities

 

2:15pm

 

shimon

horsepigcow: do you have a particular example in mind?

 

2:15pm

 

anselm

i'd love to tap some of this communities expertise for our wherecamp ; will remember this room and drop by later on

 

2:15pm

 

ericaogrady

Instiki?

 

2:15pm

 

anselm

actually i guess i'll just leave my proxy on

 

2:15pm

 

ericaogrady

It's a Rails based wiki.

 

2:15pm

 

horsepigcow

Well, I was just looking at http://www.dorkbot.org

 

2:15pm

 

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2:15pm

 

xpo

instiki is a good one yes

 

2:16pm

 

horsepigcow

and realizing that they structure theirs in an interesting way

 

2:17pm

 

horsepigcow

I mean, dorkbot is obviously too dorkbot for some of our community members

 

2:17pm

 

horsepigcow

but i do like the idea of the map on the homepage

 

2:17pm

 

1Misha

What's "too dorkbot" about dorkbot?

 

2:17pm

 

anselm

hm, mine is going to stomp on barcamp sacremento

 

2:17pm

 

horsepigcow

although it ain't clickable

 

2:17pm

 

shimon

i'm not sure what the colorings mean

 

2:18pm

 

anselm

to me it means 'ooh pretty' but i am sure it has some more meaning than that

 

2:18pm

 

horsepigcow

well, have you clicked through to some of the satellite pages? Hard to navigate. Way geeky

 

2:18pm

 

1Misha

colorings = biodiversity: http://www.nhm.ac.uk/research-curation/projects/worldmap/diversity/c1.htm

 

2:19pm

 

horsepigcow

wisdom in these crowds

 

2:19pm

 

horsepigcow

;)

 

2:19pm

 

1Misha

(I think "ooh pretty" is a fair understanding of the meaning...)

 

2:23pm

 

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2:26pm

 

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2:27pm

 

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2:31pm

 

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2:31pm

 

horsepigcow

Okay, I want to put the call out...

 

2:31pm

 

horsepigcow

for all BarCamp Planners to make an inventory list of stuff they've got

 

2:31pm

 

horsepigcow

that is available for borrowing by other BarCamps

 

2:31pm

 

horsepigcow

I'll email the list as well

 

2:33pm

 

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2:38pm

 

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2:38pm

 

ericaogrady

HEY ZACK ;0

 

2:38pm

 

ericaogrady

Welcome.

 

2:38pm

 

zackgilbert

hey erica! thanks.

 

2:39pm

 

ericaogrady

Zack -- we're trying to come up with an inventory list of stuff other BarCamps may have left over. To share - or reuse.

 

2:40pm

 

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2:41pm

 

ericaogrady

Also -- looking at alternatives ways of presenting info about BarCamp (alternate wiki such as instiki -- other ways to coordinate BarCamp efforts, etc).

 

2:42pm

 

zackgilbert

Ok. I'll be sure to contribute where I can.

 

2:43pm

 

zackgilbert

Is this list of supplies? Or of give-a-way stuff? That kind of "stuff"? Or is this more of an ideas/topics list?

 

2:44pm

 

ericaogrady

List of left over supplies.

 

2:45pm

 

ericaogrady

We're also coming up with a list of "Master Sponsors" from past barcamps (which would also lead to things like swag - etc). Like the Flickr stuff we got for BarCampRochester

 

2:46pm

 

zackgilbert

Wonderful.

 

2:52pm

 

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2:53pm

 

zackgilbert

For types of spaced used, I know we used RIT's familities for BarcampRochester. So would class rooms/university auditoriums be something to add?

 

2:53pm

 

ericaogrady

Tyler ;)

 

2:53pm

 

ericaogrady

Actually -- that's a terrific idea Zack.

 

2:53pm

 

ericaogrady

A space database ;)

 

2:53pm

 

rtyler

II think barcamp's need more black peoples

 

2:53pm

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rtyler

 

ducks

 

2:54pm

 

ericaogrady

@Tyler -- we were just discussing diversity.

 

2:54pm

 

ericaogrady

Are you in Austin still?

 

2:54pm

 

rtyler

I know, thus the silly quip

 

2:55pm

 

factoryjoe

rtyler: not sure how silly that would sound for folks of color in the channel

 

2:55pm

 

factoryjoe

personally, i think we need more lanky dorks, but that's just me. ;)

 

2:56pm

 

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2:56pm

 

rtyler

factoryjoe: I just don't like the idea of saying "we need more $TYPE_OF_PERSON" at all, it goes against the basis of BarCamp (i think) which is, come and participate if you wish

 

2:56pm

 

RachelC

factory joe..did you say dorky yanks?

 

2:56pm

 

rtyler

RachelC: we've already got too many of thems ;)

 

2:57pm

 

ericaogrady

rtyler: right -- but what if we're missing out on great ideas and connections because we are creating an environment where only a specific type of person feel comfortable?

 

2:57pm

 

factoryjoe

rtyler: sure, but we're not into tokenism

 

2:57pm

 

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2:57pm

 

factoryjoe

ericaogrady++

 

2:58pm

 

factoryjoe

we're interested in diversity because diversity is interesting

 

2:58pm

 

rtyler

that type of person seems to be geek who likes drinks, completely nonspecific methinks :P

 

2:58pm

 

rtyler

then by all means ericaogrady, drag more womens into the fray

 

2:58pm

 

ericaogrady

rtyler: I'm planning on it.

 

3:00pm

 

factoryjoe

indeed, as should we all. ;)

 

3:00pm

 

ericaogrady

This past BarCamp in Austin had more women than any of the previous BarCamps I've attended (and I'm not counting the cocktail waitresses).

 

3:00pm

 

rtyler

heh

 

3:01pm

 

rtyler

I just think forcing the issue is counter intuitive, frankly, I dont know too many folks that would be interested in the CarCamp idea at all that aren't lanky dorky guys :P

 

3:02pm

 

factoryjoe

you never know until you put in some legwork

 

3:02pm

 

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3:02pm

 

rtyler

I think if we start to push diversity a different direction, that'd be awesome; a larger proportion of systems and app developers

 

3:02pm

 

rtyler

factoryjoe: I'm speaking empirically, in that, the only peopple I've mentioned BCA2 too that were interested were the aforementioned nerdy types :P

 

3:03pm

 

rtyler

and with regards to tools

 

3:03pm

 

ericaogrady

I agree -- Plus -- technology (while a major focus of BarCamp -- doesn't have to be the only focus of these types of events. Plus -- technology effects most people's lives whether they want it to or not. We should target the curious -- and see where it leads.

 

3:03pm

 

rtyler

rock, you always choose rock

 

3:03pm

 

RachelC

I've had the same issue, trying to get non-lanky dorks attending, we need a better description, soundbite to attract, the 2min elevator pitch that attracts other types

 

3:04pm

 

ericaogrady

Rachel C: Jay F. came up with some awesome stuff this morning.

 

3:04pm

 

horsepigcow

well, with Web2Open, we are hand-picking a portion of the speakers

 

3:04pm

 

RachelC

when I explained I gave a talk on digital marketing, it got far more interesting to the people I was talking to, then tech

 

3:04pm

 

horsepigcow

'curating' for diversity...both in topics and in backgrounds

 

3:05pm

 

RachelC

erica - is it somewhere I can see?

 

3:05pm

 

horsepigcow

Quote by Jay: giving a voice to those who currently doesn't have a voice

 

3:05pm

 

horsepigcow

that's BarCamp

 

3:05pm

 

horsepigcow

and he said, "We have a voice now, so we can't stop here"

 

3:06pm

 

horsepigcow

oops

 

3:06pm

 

rtyler

Jay as in, drunk by 5:40 Jay, or the shorter one? :P

 

3:06pm

 

factoryjoe

quadmod

 

3:06pm

 

ericaogrady

Social Media Club has been very good at integrating not just techies -- but people interested in how technology and social media can impact their cause.

 

3:06pm

 

horsepigcow

bad grammar on my part: giving a voice to those who currently don't have a voice

 

3:09pm

 

factoryjoe

ericaogrady: how diverse is their community?

 

3:10pm

 

RachelC

the SMC in New York seems to be reasonably diverse

 

3:11pm

 

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3:11pm

 

blakehall

i'm sure y'all have read http://www.dashes.com/anil/2007/02/23/the_essentials_

 

3:12pm

 

factoryjoe

yep

 

3:13pm

 

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3:14pm

 

horsepigcow

I especially love the comment section. :|

 

3:14pm

 

ericaogrady

factoryjoe: journalists, pr folk, people in advertising, communication, sales, business, and tech.

 

3:15pm

 

factoryjoe

cool

 

3:15pm

 

factoryjoe

what are the goals?

 

3:15pm

 

horsepigcow

ericaogrady: ostensibly a more 'woman friendly' group

 

3:15pm

 

RachelC

http://www.socialmediaclub.org/

 

3:15pm

 

ericaogrady

All with one intent -- to learn about new social media (blogs, podcasts, etc --)

 

3:15pm

 

factoryjoe

I'm familiar -- just not sure what it does

 

3:16pm

 

factoryjoe

"Social Media Club is being organized for the purpose of sharing best practices, establishing ethics and standards, and for promoting media literacy. This is the beginning of a global conversation about building an organization and a community where the many diverse groups of people who care about social media can come together to discover, connect, share and learn."

 

3:16pm

 

RachelC

the last one in NYC went through how the various political campaigns were using social media, from presidential to local

 

3:17pm

 

ericaogrady

Moto -- If you get it -- share it.

 

3:21pm

 

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3:27pm

 

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3:29pm

 

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3:32pm

 

rtyler

i'd love to stay and chat, but as it turns out, it's lawyer-time

 

3:32pm

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rtyler

 

does the MC Hammer lawyer-time dance out of the channel

 

3:32pm

 

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3:34pm

 

markkuznicki

is there a wiki page for notes from the summit?

 

3:34pm

 

markkuznicki

sorry i missed most of the action

 

3:36pm

 

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3:37pm

 

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3:39pm

 

alexdc

there was a social media club meetup in miami last night but i missed it

 

3:43pm

 

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3:45pm

 

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3:52pm

 

factoryjoe

markkuznicki: we're working on it

 

3:52pm

 

factoryjoe

;)

 

3:52pm

 

markkuznicki

of course you are!

 

3:53pm

 

markkuznicki

:)

 

3:54pm

 

factoryjoe

look under Roles, BarCampDayOf and .... BarCampStuff?

 

3:59pm

 

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4:03pm

 

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4:14pm

 

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4:15pm

 

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4:15pm

 

horsepigcow

http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfj8ndx4_5c4kq8r

 

4:16pm

 

horsepigcow

BarCampStuff is not the description page, it's the page where people put what stuff they have to lend to new BarCamps

 

4:18pm

 

factoryjoe

oh

 

4:18pm

 

factoryjoe

how about BarCampLendingLibrary/

 

4:18pm

 

factoryjoe

?

 

4:26pm

 

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