bru : hi ruk
henrietteweberan : everybody this is peter
ruk : Hey there.
kimbach : hi...
henrietteweberan : what time is it in canada?
ruk : Just after 12:00 Noon.
ruk : In other words, almost time for lunch!
henrietteweberan : we have cookies *s*
ruk : It is 5:00ish there?
henrietteweberan : 17.20 more specifically
bru : so what's going on over there?
ruk : Putting the finishing touches on a series of screencasts for Plazes.com.
ruk : Which means I'm knee-deep in hacking a Flash Video Player.
ruk : http://ruk.ca/plazes/flowplayer/
bru : cool
bru : time for a coffee here :)
kimbach : henriette has started her presentation
kimbach : she's talking about marketing and what if "nobody gives a damn"
kimbach : it the conversation the companies want isn't "picked up"
kimbach : she's running down the types of marketing, right now she's talking about web 2.0 OH OH
bru : :)
kimbach : she thinks that "neutral stories" are the most interesting
kimbach : *people comment and answer on web"
kimbach : *rating comments and answers
kimbach : *payout on behalf of effort and creativity
kimbach : companies makes better products
kimbach : *because they'll get the feedback they need
kimbach : so...
kimbach : "old school marketing will die!
kimbach : (and viral marketing is just "old school" according to H.)
kimbach : onto questions...
kimbach : how can we know if a blogger is getting paid to blog?
kimbach : H: it's usually very obvious
bru : (thank you kimbach)
kimbach : for instance begging for caribbean vacation
kimbach : like "the ruby documentation guy"
kimbach : now we're talking about getting paid with "hardware" - a natural economy of sorts
bru left the chat room. (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
kimbach : and that H. has "crafted" herself
kimbach : http://www.craftzone.com/blog
kimbach : http://www.craftzone.com/blog
kimbach : ups
kimbach : craftzIne
kimbach : now Peter is talking about his service findvej.dk
ruk : findvej.dk rocks
bru joined the chat room.
kimbach : I agree
bru : woah, got little connectivity problems here
kimbach : Peter is basically doing a presentation of the findvej.dk service, and the small additions he is building into it
kimbach : Peter is getting involved in projects with geotagging of local news
kimbach : for some of the local news media
kimbach : Peter is trying to find a business model for his services
kimbach : frederik is going into his presentation now...he has limited himself to a 3 min. presentation
kimbach : frederik is trying to brdige the gap between buisnees people and geeks
kimbach : and he's going to do a presentation on it
kimbach : his background is in science of religion
bru : cool
bru : is it already through?
kimbach : yes!
kimbach : but we switch to a discussion
kimbach : on corporate weblogs
bru : question:
bru : does anybody of you know of enterprise who either fired a manager or somehow modified their structure due to peer review or effect of internal blogs?
kimbach : i'll ask it in a sec...
kimbach : no one has heard of that...
kimbach : but it's a very good question
kimbach : especially the point on internal blogs
kimbach : we assume that that is not very in widespread use in Denmark
bru : yes I understand
henrietteweberan : we're not that progressed in DK - no examples from headshift
bru : well we were discussing this today. But no known cases like this in the uk either
kimbach : I think that there might be some cases from big corporate SW companies,
kimbach : Apple would spring to mind...but they probably shut down ANY local MAMP installations as soon as they find them
bru : yup
bru : well there are cases of people being fired or seriously told of. but they're employees saying something dangerous for the company
kimbach : I agree...
kimbach : now Karin will start her presentation
kimbach : and a new person just entered, and we have beer now!
henrietteweberan : wuhu !
kimbach : Karin has a blog podblog.dk, she has a list titled
kimbach : "this how you please your podcaster"
kimbach : this IS...of course
kimbach : the media has to be more widespread
kimbach : send feedback to the producer
kimbach : by e-mail (prefered) use comment
kimbach : word of mouth
kimbach : educate on how to subscribe, and show them how
kimbach : send feedback even if you havn't really heard listend the podcast
kimbach : ask for themes for discussion
pbro joined the chat room.
kimbach : use iTunes discussion
kimbach : but be possitive in the PUBLIC
kimbach : send NEGATIVE comments on the backchannel
henrietteweberan : pbro on the phone.. wuhu
kimbach : use podcast alley and rate it...
kimbach : a podcaster will rarely ask for feedback
kimbach : comment on your private blog
kimbach : spread the word
kimbach : if you note that a podcaster is podfading
kimbach : send encouragement
kimbach : send audio feedback if you can
kimbach : donations!!!
kimbach : do your own so the community can grow
kimbach : H. is going to start her own...geekarmyknife!
bru : kool
kimbach : H. has few comments, but she's noticed that people are following her blog
kimbach : and know "what's she's been up to"
kimbach : due o her blog
kimbach : +t
kimbach : narrowcasting is gr8
kimbach : writing for the audience of ONE
kimbach : if you're a CEO how should you podcast
kimbach : just be your self
kimbach : is the advice from Karin
olleolleolle joined the chat room.
Topic changed to "yay" by olleolleolle.
henrietteweberan : we're here !
henrietteweberan : YAY !
olleolleolle : Our speak in line rules are TOO LAX.
olleolleolle : How many is ENOUGH?
olleolleolle : (podcasts)
kimbach : what you mean an airport in LA?
olleolleolle : Your best comedy material is yet to come, the night is young.
kimbach : should we speak in line?
henrietteweberan : He's interrupting again...
henrietteweberan : Karin is the only person in here who has a video ipod WITHOUT any music on..
henrietteweberan : that's geeky.. SNORT
henrietteweberan : excellent
bru : got connection problems again. damn
kimbach : so olle is doing a 3 min presentation
kimbach : and the new is the new new...
kimbach : no...it isn't...
kimbach : the old is the new new
henrietteweberan : wasn't old the new new ?
henrietteweberan : yeah
kimbach : or...
kimbach : the new is the old old
kimbach : Algortihmic Language GO Peter Naur
henrietteweberan : new is the ancient world.. we're history
kimbach : be a tourist
pbro : the first step to a new paradigm is being a tourist
henrietteweberan : welcome to many languages
henrietteweberan : the art of programming... in the 60's somebody...
olleolleolle : DON KNUTH!
henrietteweberan : 80's programming is a work of art
henrietteweberan : I have no idea who he is
henrietteweberan : the 90's the science of programming
olleolleolle : Han samler numere på vejskilte! han publicerer billeder af dem!
henrietteweberan : sejt
olleolleolle : Hans kone tager billeder, han selv samler geo-positionen op!
henrietteweberan : english please, we have company by mr. rukavina and riccardo cambiassi from uk
henrietteweberan : I know you prefer danish
olleolleolle : Objects have failed, he said,
kimbach : did I just speak english?
henrietteweberan : Olle did
olleolleolle : The podcaster took Java at the poly, was scared away by the *Math*
kimbach : I'm not sure
kimbach : what language I spoke
kimbach : guess it was BASIC
henrietteweberan : java
bru : thank you
olleolleolle : Don Knuth's website's full of images of roadsigns. Don takes the geo-position, his wife snaps a photo. They have tons of those images.
kimbach : Don or D. as I call him ROCKS
olleolleolle : grabbed a beer, let the notes reflect that
kimbach : we 2
henrietteweberan : cheers
kimbach : cheers!
bru : uhm, shall I go to the loco minibarcamp now? :)
henrietteweberan : I think I am driving tonight - it's either me or Thomas
bru : boys barcamps are all over these days
henrietteweberan : we are leaving for food in half an hour
kimbach : KEWL!
henrietteweberan : well be back...
kimbach : (and I've noticed)
henrietteweberan : promise.. where's the people bru ?
henrietteweberan : you promised me a surprise
kimbach : Java sux...
kimbach : if (i = 0; i < 10; i++) {}
olleolleolle : Io - http://www.iolanguage.com/
kimbach : ALGOL rocks
olleolleolle : The new new..
kimbach : for i := 1 to 10 ...
kimbach : onto me
pbro : MOV
olleolleolle : Interesting, the := operator for assignment (INSERT) is big in many langs. The = opeator is "UPDATE".
olleolleolle : Adopt a rabbit.
bru : here here
henrietteweberan : damn you got it first
olleolleolle : Name that tech.
henrietteweberan : model blogging
henrietteweberan : anina.net
olleolleolle : (I saw the bag he has)
olleolleolle : Minintel!
pbro : One of the premises for SQL was that it was a natural language that any guy from executive could use
henrietteweberan : the geeks rejoice..
henrietteweberan : I have no idea what they are talking about
henrietteweberan : I have to listen
pbro : select name from employees where payment > ...
olleolleolle : pbro: And how many promising technologies have claimed that? Many... even the DSLs in Ruby try to claim the same.
olleolleolle : The hip trend of making a DSL for everything.
henrietteweberan : wilhelm the conquer... conquered the world, not the mini intel
olleolleolle : Being ozoné henrietteweberan : wifi
olleolleolle : THe smart object company
bru : ok, they're bailing me out of the office...
henrietteweberan : uhh purple cow ..
olleolleolle : Violet
henrietteweberan : bailing you?
pbro : Purple is the new... Orange?
henrietteweberan : a rabbit
bru : henrietteweberan: meaning I've to get out of here
olleolleolle : http://opensource.reevoo.com/2006/03/13/release-nabaztag-01/
henrietteweberan : ohh okay...
olleolleolle : Hos Reevoo kører de build-tests over Nabaztag. De er crazy.
bru : nabaztag
bru : I like that
henrietteweberan : I want one for christmas
olleolleolle : Sry. At Reevoo they run their build tests over Nab*. They are crazy (and I love them)
bru : henrietteweberan: I got one
bru : but want the next gen :)
olleolleolle : The prev URL's about a DSL (in Ruby) to control the rabbit.
bru : olleolleolle: yeah I know that module
bru : still have to play thoroughly with it
olleolleolle : Paul's a solid guy. A good kid. The article really tells nice examples on how to make your own Domain-specific Language.
henrietteweberan : geeky shit
olleolleolle : ...said the Nab-rabbit
pbro : I want one!
olleolleolle : You want to *build* one!
henrietteweberan : Pbro : we can buy one together and share it
pbro : I want one in every room!
olleolleolle : Los Linkos!
bru : :)
: Les Liens
henrietteweberan : okay I don't want to share with you then
bru : penny would love that
henrietteweberan : yeah she would ruin it instantly
henrietteweberan : Bru is in love with my daughter..
bru : :)
henrietteweberan : TeeKay doesn't like it one bit
ruk : I'm heading off to lunch, but I'm going to leave the IRC flowing so I can read the transcript when I come back... so if I seem quiet, you'll understand ;-)
henrietteweberan : allright cool , we are leaving for food also soon - not lunch though
olleolleolle : What is the nabaztag URL?
olleolleolle : I.e. KIM's nabaztag PHP API-using apge
olleolleolle : page
henrietteweberan : hmmm
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henrietteweberan : arla nabaztag !
