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[2006/01/28 11:21:40]	<tantek> is there a subethaedit-compatible client on windows?
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[2006/01/28 11:23:48]	<jdunck> subethaedit for web service up.,
[2006/01/28 11:24:12]	<menefee> btw, I'm looking for a ~30-min slot in the main room if anyone wants to swap around
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[2006/01/28 11:26:11]	<alexande1muse> Maybe we should increase the size of the overhead for IRC?
[2006/01/28 11:26:17]	<jdunck> menefee: sorry, already sliced my slot (2-3)
[2006/01/28 11:26:36]	<alexande1muse> Kevin, if you can read this....can you make it bigger?
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[2006/01/28 11:26:52]	<menefee> just up font size?
[2006/01/28 11:27:02]	<jdunck> yep
[2006/01/28 11:28:01]	<menefee> jdunck: no worries, thanks anyway.
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[2006/01/28 11:29:02]	<blakestar> are we streaming video from sessions?
[2006/01/28 11:29:47]	<jdunck> blakestar: dunno, haven't heard anything
[2006/01/28 11:30:06]	<cgriego> haven't seen video cameras
[2006/01/28 11:30:26]	<jdunck> dang, and i was hoping to earn a grammy
[2006/01/28 11:30:39]	<alexande1muse> Ean agreed to do that.
[2006/01/28 11:30:45]	<alexande1muse> i.e. the video...
[2006/01/28 11:30:54]	<alexande1muse> He is standing in the back with the green hat...
[2006/01/28 11:31:02]	<blakestar> on IM?
[2006/01/28 11:31:17]	<alexande1muse> This is so over my head...
[2006/01/28 11:31:21]	<alexande1muse> What is in the other room?
[2006/01/28 11:31:29]	* rtyler wouldn't mind watching from afar ;)
[2006/01/28 11:31:51]	<menefee> alexande1muse: nothing right now, last I checked
[2006/01/28 11:32:13]	<alexl> the sticky note schedule didn't have anything on it for the other room
[2006/01/28 11:32:13]	<jdunck> ean sez he thinks there are other cams, but he'll go get one soon-ish
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[2006/01/28 11:32:18]	<cgriego> a webcam on the schedule would've been really handy
[2006/01/28 11:32:40]	<mgriego> someone can wiki the schedule
[2006/01/28 11:32:46]	<Tony_L> exactly
[2006/01/28 11:32:59]	<jdunck> eh, wiki schedule requires comp, which not everyone has, and data syncing
[2006/01/28 11:33:02]	<jdunck> bad idea...
[2006/01/28 11:33:35]	<cgriego> right, I would never trust that it was up to date unless the wiki was the real schedule like a kiosk
[2006/01/28 11:34:04]	<menefee> we could point the sponsorship thinger on the right there at the wiki
[2006/01/28 11:34:27]	<menefee> set it to auto-refresh every 10 secs or something?
[2006/01/28 11:34:37]	<alexande1muse> Flickr Photos have been posted - barcampdallas is the tag.
[2006/01/28 11:34:40]	<JordanYoung> make the schedule WAP compatible. :)
[2006/01/28 11:35:00]	<jdunck> still have comp-less ppl left out..
[2006/01/28 11:35:10]	<jdunck> digital divide ;-)
[2006/01/28 11:35:19]	<menefee> put a laptop on a table somewhere
[2006/01/28 11:35:27]	<JordanYoung> yeah...
[2006/01/28 11:35:40]	<JordanYoung> implement wifi chipsets into everybody's brains. that's the answer!
[2006/01/28 11:36:20]	<cgriego> brilliant!
[2006/01/28 11:36:31]	<jdunck> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321384 016 everware
[2006/01/28 11:36:35]	<jdunck> everyware*
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[2006/01/28 11:36:52]	<alexl> ramdac: are you in the house, or from afar?
[2006/01/28 11:37:29]	<tantek> having the schedule be in a physical format actually has tons of advantages for face-to-face meetings like this
[2006/01/28 11:37:45]	<jdunck> like, people gather around it and talk ;-)
[2006/01/28 11:37:57]	<mgriego> that's what the coffee pot is for :)
[2006/01/28 11:38:05]	<jdunck> heh, not for me
[2006/01/28 11:38:11]	<bingeldac> I am impressed at the turnout
[2006/01/28 11:38:16]	<tantek> e.g. it forces everyone who wants to change the schedule to have to occupy nearby space, notice each other, and collisions/conflicts/coordination are handled much better in person than virtually
[2006/01/28 11:38:36]	<tantek> and of course, people meet each other
[2006/01/28 11:38:43]	<cgriego> bingeldac: sorry we didn't meet up, I needed the sleep
[2006/01/28 11:38:50]	<jdunck> q from audience was "what's diff between bag of xml and an object?"
[2006/01/28 11:38:58]	<cgriego> I think we're back to the webcam idea
[2006/01/28 11:39:07]	<bingeldac> nah no problem
[2006/01/28 11:39:11]	<bingeldac> we went to deep ellum
[2006/01/28 11:39:17]	<bingeldac> good time was had
[2006/01/28 11:39:45]	<jdunck> answer is data rep (DOM instead of proxied method calls)
[2006/01/28 11:40:02]	<jdunck> bingeldac: even more fun that bar camp? ;-)
[2006/01/28 11:40:12]	<bingeldac> heh we'll see
[2006/01/28 11:40:20]	<jdunck> tantek: welcome btw, nice to see u sitting in
[2006/01/28 11:40:51]	* rtyler nods at jdunck ;)
[2006/01/28 11:41:00]	<cgriego> this web services for caveman analogy is creative
[2006/01/28 11:41:16]	<bingeldac> I like it
[2006/01/28 11:41:28]	<mgriego> reminds me of the Geico commercials
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[2006/01/28 11:41:42]	<jdunck> FYI: SubEthaEdit is a collaborative text editor allowing multiple ppl to edit the same doc over a network.
[2006/01/28 11:41:53]	<JordanYoung> funny.. .NET = "those people"
[2006/01/28 11:41:58]	<KevinMarvin> heh
[2006/01/28 11:42:06]	<jdunck> JordanYoung: i'm still have one of those ppl
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[2006/01/28 11:42:20]	<jdunck> it's free for non-commercial use, and is good in conferences for collab note-taking on presentation
[2006/01/28 11:42:37]	<menefee> jdunck: so is there a windows version, or do I have to break out the PPC emulator?
[2006/01/28 11:42:39]	<bingeldac> how long does it take flikr to start showing newly tagged photos
[2006/01/28 11:42:49]	<jdunck> sadly no.
[2006/01/28 11:42:51]	<jdunck> http://www.codingmonkeys.de/subethaedit/ SubEthaEdit.dmg
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[2006/01/28 11:43:16]	<jdunck> bingeldac: instant as far as i can tell
[2006/01/28 11:43:31]	<menefee> btw, I've used SOAP in Perl and its fairly easy to do
[2006/01/28 11:43:37]	<cks> glue by the mind electric was the world's best soap stack
[2006/01/28 11:43:39]	<bingeldac> hmm
[2006/01/28 11:43:39]	<menefee> .NET <-> Perl
[2006/01/28 11:43:42]	<cgriego> I've had lag issues with Flickr tags, I think it has to do with how happy the data center is
[2006/01/28 11:43:47]	<cks> even better than .net
[2006/01/28 11:44:19]	<cks> note to everyone: tag everything you add with "barcampdallas" (technorati/flickr/etc)
[2006/01/28 11:44:23]	<cgriego> are any of the schedule items specifically labeled as conversations?
[2006/01/28 11:44:53]	<jdunck> cgriego: there's a lightning talk around 4. and free slots for convos.. in hallways ;-)
[2006/01/28 11:44:55]	<bingeldac> the ruby one later is
[2006/01/28 11:45:01]	<cks> hmm, haven't looking in a few minutes, it's up to somebody who's interested to add it
[2006/01/28 11:45:04]	<JordanYoung> i just noticed that the projector is tilted slightly to the left.
[2006/01/28 11:45:21]	<KevinMarvin> I've done lots of soap in PHP and VB
[2006/01/28 11:45:22]	<menefee> keystone...
[2006/01/28 11:45:29]	<KevinMarvin> really handy.
[2006/01/28 11:45:32]	<JordanYoung> ahh... yes... it is keystone.
[2006/01/28 11:45:34]	<alexl> what is the lightning talk about?
[2006/01/28 11:46:00]	<jdunck> whatever ppl want to talk about but didn't have enuf material for ;-)
[2006/01/28 11:46:00]	<rtyler> KevinMarvin: try SOAP calls in Cocoa, even better ;)
[2006/01/28 11:46:06]	<cgriego> I don't think anything has been picked for the lightening topics
[2006/01/28 11:46:12]	<KevinMarvin> Its keystone - the projector in the ceiling was hard to mount, even harder after it had been there a year and I changed the bulb yesterday.
[2006/01/28 11:46:17]	<KevinMarvin> Ooo... Cocoa Soap
[2006/01/28 11:46:19]	<KevinMarvin> hehe
[2006/01/28 11:46:22]	<alexl> jdunck: that's nifty...might do Trac
[2006/01/28 11:46:52]	<mgriego> I'd be interested in a Trac session
[2006/01/28 11:46:59]	<KevinMarvin> rtyler : find me later, want to chat Cocoa stuffs.
[2006/01/28 11:47:00]	<menefee> My "Rethinking Email" talk could carry over to a discussion group later.. was trying to give people something to talk about
[2006/01/28 11:47:01]	<rtyler> KevinMarvin: it smells as good as it sounds ;)
[2006/01/28 11:47:11]	<KevinMarvin> rtyler : heh
[2006/01/28 11:47:15]	<JordanYoung> http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/access ories/5a65/ <-- greater than cocoa soap.
[2006/01/28 11:47:22]	<rtyler> KevinMarvin: unfortunately, I have a meeting tonight, so I'm in Corpus Christi :(
[2006/01/28 11:47:26]	* rtyler really wanted to be there
[2006/01/28 11:47:30]	<cgriego> I was more or less wondering about the presentation style than actually trying to schedule conversation-time
[2006/01/28 11:47:31]	<alexl> JordanYoung: Cocoa is a programming language, not a chemical
[2006/01/28 11:47:38]	<KevinMarvin> Jordan: I used that once, didnt sleep for weeks... ;)
[2006/01/28 11:47:48]	<rtyler> KevinMarvin: you can chat with blakestar, he's the resident cocoa rep AFAIK ;)
[2006/01/28 11:47:49]	<JordanYoung> kevin: awesome.
[2006/01/28 11:47:58]	<jdunck> rtyler: if u're on your way back tonite, we can tell u whether it's going late... ;-)
[2006/01/28 11:48:01]	<KevinMarvin> Cool, thanks rtyler ;)
[2006/01/28 11:48:01]	<mgriego> Cocoa would be a good lightning talk as well
[2006/01/28 11:48:18]	<KevinMarvin> rtyler: I will be here drinking beer until they kill the lights :P
[2006/01/28 11:48:21]	<menefee> mgriego: certainly
[2006/01/28 11:48:40]	<rtyler> KevinMarvin: it's an eight hour trip to dallas, i'd rather just make the 4 hour one to College Station tomorrow
[2006/01/28 11:48:43]	<rtyler> ;)
[2006/01/28 11:48:49]	<blakestar> CocoaRadio is here
[2006/01/28 11:48:54]	<cgriego> jdunck: were you recommending that book or being sarcastic?
[2006/01/28 11:49:10]	<jdunck> cgriego: adam greenfield is a crazy-smart person
[2006/01/28 11:49:17]	<jdunck> i plan to buy it
[2006/01/28 11:49:20]	<JordanYoung> why doesn't this server support PRIVMSG?
[2006/01/28 11:49:38]	<alexl> last i thought freenode allowed them :/
[2006/01/28 11:49:44]	<menefee> it seems to... I just sent one
[2006/01/28 11:49:46]	<rtyler> you just have to be registered
[2006/01/28 11:49:50]	<rtyler> IIRC
[2006/01/28 11:50:18]	<JordanYoung> ahh.. yes.. must register.
[2006/01/28 11:50:26]	<jdunck> cgriego: minimal compact was his: http://www.v-2.org/displayArticle.php?ar ticle_num=339
[2006/01/28 11:51:45]	<cgriego> oh wow, didn't know Adam was writing that book
[2006/01/28 11:51:59]	<cgriego> Web Services with Ruby for PragProg
[2006/01/28 11:52:14]	<jdunck> uh, adam greenfield != adam keys
[2006/01/28 11:52:33]	<cgriego> I thought he just said he was working on it
[2006/01/28 11:52:39]	<dsaint> what's next in this room?
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[2006/01/28 11:52:57]	<jdunck> adam keys is working on that book, yes
[2006/01/28 11:53:05]	<jdunck> adam greenfield did everyware
[2006/01/28 11:53:18]	* jdunck is off
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[2006/01/28 11:53:24]	<cgriego> yeah, sorry I switched books on you :)
[2006/01/28 11:55:38]	<brianobe1kirch> I am sitting next to the cocoaradio dude
[2006/01/28 11:55:54]	<brianobe1kirch> I am talking about him & he doesn't realize it
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[2006/01/28 11:58:35]	<caffo_> howdy
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[2006/01/28 11:59:52]	<brianobe1kirch> rodrigo!
[2006/01/28 12:01:40]	<caffo_> Hi Brian!
[2006/01/28 12:01:48]	<caffo_> Hi barcampers :)
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[2006/01/28 12:09:10]	<alexandermuse> Back...
[2006/01/28 12:09:15]	<alexandermuse> Raven is in the house...
[2006/01/28 12:09:23]	<JordanYoung> yup yup yup!
[2006/01/28 12:09:27]	<jakedahn> yippie!
[2006/01/28 12:09:34]	<alexandermuse> Talking about free office space.
[2006/01/28 12:09:37]	<alexandermuse> Get some...
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[2006/01/28 12:09:59]	<JordanYoung> all too familiar with the honey do list...
[2006/01/28 12:11:45]	<jakedahn> hey is there a schedule anywhere?
[2006/01/28 12:11:57]	<JordanYoung> out on the window. not online.
[2006/01/28 12:12:15]	<jakedahn> :-\ someone wiki a schedule
[2006/01/28 12:12:32]	<tantek> flickr it!
[2006/01/28 12:12:42]	<jakedahn> yeah flickr it that works!
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[2006/01/28 12:12:54]	<tantek> and tag it BarCampDallasSchedule
[2006/01/28 12:12:56]	<jakedahn> wow, another website has become a verb!
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[2006/01/28 12:13:13]	<jakedahn> yeah let me know when someone flikrs it
[2006/01/28 12:13:13]	<alexandermuse> Hola Rodrigo...
[2006/01/28 12:13:21]	<alexandermuse> It washes out...
[2006/01/28 12:13:32]	<cks> we should talk to gachet about this
[2006/01/28 12:13:33]	<alexandermuse> i.e. I took some photos, they don't show up well.
[2006/01/28 12:13:47]	<cks> then want people during the day, happy is delivering coffee later this afternoon
[2006/01/28 12:14:17]	<cks> can somebody make the font size really huge on this screen?
[2006/01/28 12:14:19]	<JordanYoung> alexandermuse: did you give alexl the key to install the drive in the server he was working on?
[2006/01/28 12:14:34]	<jakedahn> if someone takes a good picture of it ill put it on the wiki
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[2006/01/28 12:15:50]	<jdunck> jakedahn: what is "it"?
[2006/01/28 12:16:07]	<tantek> teh sched
[2006/01/28 12:16:09]	<jakedahn> jdunck: the schedule
[2006/01/28 12:16:23]	<jdunck> k
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[2006/01/28 12:19:28]	<brianoberkirch> Raven Z. is trying to rally everyone around shared office spaace
[2006/01/28 12:19:42]	<brianoberkirch> ideas so far on something on the dart rail
[2006/01/28 12:19:50]	<brianoberkirch> maybe like mockingbird station area
[2006/01/28 12:20:10]	<jdunck> should be wiki'd w/ possible locations, probly
[2006/01/28 12:20:20]	<JordanYoung> the largest issue is that you are either going to be in a bad area or you will be in a great residential area. if it's anything else, you are really looking at a very high cost.
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[2006/01/28 12:25:12]	<jimyoung> hey all
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[2006/01/28 12:29:03]	<brianoberkirch> maybe someone will open a Backpack page for this co-officing project
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[2006/01/28 12:29:13]	<brianoberkirch> I think Blake Burris will do this
[2006/01/28 12:29:18]	<brianoberkirch> He is dying to do it
[2006/01/28 12:29:20]	<blakestar> going now
[2006/01/28 12:30:07]	<JordanYoung> oh no! not the music!
[2006/01/28 12:30:20]	<JordanYoung> at least it's remy zero.
[2006/01/28 12:30:31]	<mmenefee> roomba hacking/coding demo at 12:30 in the mash pit
[2006/01/28 12:30:39]	<JordanYoung> that's uber leet.
[2006/01/28 12:30:46]	<mmenefee> come write some code to drive a roomba
[2006/01/28 12:30:47]	<JordanYoung> we will be 1337 h4x0rs!
[2006/01/28 12:31:13]	<brianoberkirch> he is already on it
[2006/01/28 12:31:19]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 12:31:28]	<brianoberkirch> that blake is a stand up guy
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[2006/01/28 12:32:59]	<JordanYoung> go kevin!
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[2006/01/28 12:37:27]	<JordanYoung> i would be scared to give my customers a "My ticket needs to be addressed immediately" option.
[2006/01/28 12:37:40]	<ramdac> mmenefee
[2006/01/28 12:37:42]	<ramdac> michael?
[2006/01/28 12:37:48]	<brianoberkirch> http://blake.backpackit.com/pub/432895
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[2006/01/28 12:38:01]	<alexleverington> is this session being recorded?
[2006/01/28 12:38:15]	<jakedahn> i hope so! i want to see it!
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[2006/01/28 12:39:28]	<JordanYoung> that's nice... very cool interface.
[2006/01/28 12:40:27]	<mgriego> yeah, appears to be pretty snappy too
[2006/01/28 12:40:39]	<mgriego> ooooh that word
[2006/01/28 12:40:41]	<mgriego> metrics
[2006/01/28 12:40:58]	<JordanYoung> very. the best part is it's compatible with most devices. I would hope there is a WAP interface available eventually. Those of us with Treos are less fortunate.
[2006/01/28 12:41:07]	<JordanYoung> Would help out in the field to have full functionality on a mobile device.
[2006/01/28 12:41:34]	<alexleverington> does anyone have a webcam? i've got quicktime broadcaster and can setup a stream
[2006/01/28 12:41:45]	<mgriego> grab one of the logitech cameras :)
[2006/01/28 12:42:00]	<alexleverington> do they need osx drivers?
[2006/01/28 12:42:11]	<JordanYoung> i don't think they work with osx, do they?
[2006/01/28 12:42:12]	<jakedahn> alexleverington: if ya get it setup let me know ;)
[2006/01/28 12:42:14]	<JordanYoung> almost need an iSight.
[2006/01/28 12:42:30]	* rtyler has an iSight... :/
[2006/01/28 12:42:46]	<JordanYoung> rtyler: front right corner.
[2006/01/28 12:42:48]	<JordanYoung> :)
[2006/01/28 12:42:48]	<jeremykleindl> I can run FW out of my gs400... find of like an iSight
[2006/01/28 12:43:05]	<JordanYoung> alex is grabbing a quickcam right now.
[2006/01/28 12:43:13]	<jakedahn> sweet
[2006/01/28 12:43:13]	<JordanYoung> we'll see if it works.
[2006/01/28 12:43:34]	<jakedahn> lets hope, otherwise im left in the dark again :-\
[2006/01/28 12:43:36]	<JordanYoung> i like the ticket status as well on the screen. that is extremely nifty.
[2006/01/28 12:43:39]	<rtyler> QuickTime Broadcaster should work with any video stream you can bring in (i.e. DV cam &stuff)
[2006/01/28 12:43:53]	<JordanYoung> mmmm.... RSS :)
[2006/01/28 12:44:20]	<JordanYoung> camera is sitting here now.
[2006/01/28 12:44:53]	<JordanYoung> camera light is on...
[2006/01/28 12:45:17]	<cgriego> hooray for schedule pics on Flickr
[2006/01/28 12:45:30]	<jakedahn> cgriego: link?
[2006/01/28 12:45:40]	<alexleverington> hrm, not sure broadcaster supports usb logitech webcam
[2006/01/28 12:45:48]	<cgriego> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/barcam pdallas/
[2006/01/28 12:45:54]	<JordanYoung> i think you gotta use an iSight or other FW camera.
[2006/01/28 12:46:09]	<JordanYoung> rtyler: are you on the floor here?
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[2006/01/28 12:47:06]	<blakestar> re coworking space, NYTimes ran this on "Paragraph"
[2006/01/28 12:47:12]	<blakestar> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/09/fashio n/sundaystyles/09writers.html?ex=1286510 400&en=d939760e9736c042&ei=5090&partner= rssuserland&emc=rss
[2006/01/28 12:47:49]	<JordanYoung> nifty.
[2006/01/28 12:48:20]	<rtyler> JordanYoung: Portland Texas right now, Corpus Christ suburb
[2006/01/28 12:48:22]	* rtyler sighs
[2006/01/28 12:48:24]	<cgriego> heh, Kevin wasn't always happy with Rails performance. see the SimpleTicket blog
[2006/01/28 12:48:31]	<rtyler> god damn "responsibilities" and "meetings"
[2006/01/28 12:48:46]	<JordanYoung> rtyler: <insert witty 4 letter word here>
[2006/01/28 12:48:52]	<JordanYoung> we got a cam now.
[2006/01/28 12:49:02]	<JordanYoung> ... that will work.
[2006/01/28 12:49:14]	<JordanYoung> haha
[2006/01/28 12:49:15]	<JordanYoung> NO IE!
[2006/01/28 12:49:15]	<rtyler> woot, hook me up with a webcast :D
[2006/01/28 12:49:19]	<cgriego> url?
[2006/01/28 12:49:29]	<JordanYoung> sec.
[2006/01/28 12:49:37]	<alexleverington> it'll be quicktime, that cool?
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[2006/01/28 12:50:01]	<mgriego> bring it :)
[2006/01/28 12:50:07]	<JordanYoung> anything is better than nothing. :)
[2006/01/28 12:50:15]	<JordanYoung> alexleverington: we getting audio with it as well?
[2006/01/28 12:50:32]	<rtyler> JordanYoung: not sure about that Quicktime, is it compatible with Mac OS X?
[2006/01/28 12:50:35]	* rtyler roffles
[2006/01/28 12:50:44]	<blakestar> until a coworking space is landed, Gachet is so west coast http://gachetcoffee.com/
[2006/01/28 12:50:57]	<blakestar> and today's java source
[2006/01/28 12:51:01]	* JordanYoung watches alexleverington hack away.
[2006/01/28 12:51:05]	<alexleverington> bah, where does qtss keep it's configs...
[2006/01/28 12:51:54]	<rtyler> why not the quicktime broadcaster?
[2006/01/28 12:51:59]	<cgriego> in the last place you'll look, are you using it on Win or Mac?
[2006/01/28 12:52:05]	<JordanYoung> mac
[2006/01/28 12:52:37]	<cgriego> ah, I tried the PC one once and it's a custom web server based system on that
[2006/01/28 12:52:45]	<blakestar> live barcamping via Technorati mini here: http://www.technorati.com/search/barcamp dallas#
[2006/01/28 12:52:48]	<JordanYoung> actually the server itself is on a *nix box
[2006/01/28 12:53:01]	@ Quit: Tony_L_L: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
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[2006/01/28 12:53:12]	<cgriego> it's probably a special port you're looking for then
[2006/01/28 12:53:17]	<mgriego> long live the source!
[2006/01/28 12:53:39]	@ Quit: jimyoung:
[2006/01/28 12:53:49]	<JordanYoung> and watch.. 5 revisions down the road, simpleticket will get forked.
[2006/01/28 12:54:16]	<JordanYoung> i think it's great as it is. just needs to have a very nice customer management system built on the backend. My current customer database is based on an MSSQL2000 server. bah.
[2006/01/28 12:54:23]	<jakedahn> http://barcamp.org/BarCampDallas <-- schedule is now up, at least what i saw of the flickr pictures
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[2006/01/28 12:54:53]	<mgriego> we use HEAT.... an abomination of software
[2006/01/28 12:54:53]	<JordanYoung> marvin is misspelled as marin
[2006/01/28 12:55:02]	<JordanYoung> err.. mavin rather
[2006/01/28 12:55:26]	<alexleverington> ...uploading sdp file to streaming server
[2006/01/28 12:55:27]	<cgriego> a seperate shcedule page might be easier, the main page is massive
[2006/01/28 12:55:30]	<ravenzachary> FYI - guys, Chris Messina's flight is delayed out of Phoenix. He arrives at DFW @ 4pm. He'll be here by 5pm.
[2006/01/28 12:55:34]	<ravenzachary> we moved his Flock talk
[2006/01/28 12:55:35]	<alexandermuse> Yea!
[2006/01/28 12:55:43]	<JordanYoung> ouch.
[2006/01/28 12:55:51]	<jakedahn> jordahnyoung: fixed
[2006/01/28 12:56:02]	<jakedahn> cgriego: yeah i agree
[2006/01/28 12:56:10]	<JordanYoung> danke vous.
[2006/01/28 12:56:27]	<jakedahn> im going to *attempt* to make a new page for schedule
[2006/01/28 12:56:28]	<cgriego> I'll attack that then
[2006/01/28 12:56:32]	<cgriego> or you
[2006/01/28 12:56:34]	* jakedahn is new to wikis ;)
[2006/01/28 12:56:41]	<jakedahn> is that all for the schedule?
[2006/01/28 12:57:13]	<JordanYoung> jake: there is plenty on the schedule. 3 separate rooms... all full.
[2006/01/28 12:57:19]	<jakedahn> is there any more events besides the 4 presentatioins?
[2006/01/28 12:57:23]	<cgriego> go ahead and make a new page, then I think I'll run out and update from the wall
[2006/01/28 12:57:31]	<rtyler> if the web cast gets up, will somebody send it to me in a priv msg, I have to restart
[2006/01/28 12:57:33]	<jakedahn> jordanyoung: will you or someone else take more pictures?
[2006/01/28 12:57:49]	<JordanYoung> my cam is @ home. i was not thinking this morning.
[2006/01/28 12:57:58]	<JordanYoung> ya know what. i'll walk down to the schedule and post it here.
[2006/01/28 12:57:59]	<cgriego> the schedule will be a great way to link up any links from the talks and docs after the event is over
[2006/01/28 12:58:19]	<jakedahn> jordanyoung: pm me with em and ill put them on wiki
[2006/01/28 12:58:21]	<jakedahn> ok?
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[2006/01/28 12:58:38]	<cgriego> I see a proper video camera going up
[2006/01/28 12:58:47]	<bingeldac> I brought one too
[2006/01/28 12:58:49]	<JordanYoung> public post
[2006/01/28 12:58:55]	<JordanYoung> ops room:
[2006/01/28 12:58:55]	<alexandermuse> We are all over the world...
[2006/01/28 12:59:02]	<alexandermuse> i.e. Some people are in Brazil.
[2006/01/28 12:59:12]	<jakedahn> im in minnesota
[2006/01/28 12:59:17]	@ Quit: jimyoung: Client Quit
[2006/01/28 12:59:17]	<JordanYoung> 11A-12P Web Services w/ Ruby - Adam Keys
[2006/01/28 12:59:32]	<caffo_> Hello from Brazil :P
[2006/01/28 12:59:46]	<JordanYoung> 12P-1230P Community Office Space - Raven Zachary
[2006/01/28 13:00:02]	<JordanYoung> 1230P-1P Simple Ticket - Kevin Marvin
[2006/01/28 13:00:11]	<JordanYoung> 1P-2P Lunch
[2006/01/28 13:00:12]	<tara_> hello caffo_ how did you hear about Barcamp in Brazil?
[2006/01/28 13:00:25]	<tara_> and...when will the Barcamp Brazil take place?
[2006/01/28 13:00:25]	<caffo_> Hi Tara!
[2006/01/28 13:00:47]	<JordanYoung> 2P-3P Learn JS / Greasemonkey ??
[2006/01/28 13:01:00]	<JordanYoung> 3P-330P BarCamp Austin - William
[2006/01/28 13:01:06]	<JordanYoung> 3P-330P BarCamp Austin - William Hurley
[2006/01/28 13:01:08]	@ Quit: bingeldac:
[2006/01/28 13:01:11]	<alexleverington> who here is offsite and can teset the video stream?
[2006/01/28 13:01:21]	<caffo_> I'm the main developer of the new architel product, big in japan.
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[2006/01/28 13:01:30]	<alexleverington> warning, must have at least 800mhz G4 ;)
[2006/01/28 13:01:34]	<JordanYoung> 330P-4P Rethinking Email - Mike Menc..r?
[2006/01/28 13:01:56]	@ Quit: jdunck:
[2006/01/28 13:02:05]	<JordanYoung> 330P-4P Rethinking RSS Readers - Stefan Constantinescu
[2006/01/28 13:02:14]	<JordanYoung> 4P-5P Lightning Talks - Adam Keys
[2006/01/28 13:02:20]	<JordanYoung> 5P-6P DINNER
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[2006/01/28 13:02:34]	<JordanYoung> 6P-630P An Introduction to Flock - Chris Messina
[2006/01/28 13:02:52]	<JordanYoung> 630P-730P Supporting Open Source Projects - Raven Zachary & Chris Messina
[2006/01/28 13:02:58]	<JordanYoung> that concludes the Ops room...
[2006/01/28 13:03:04]	<JordanYoung> Little room:
[2006/01/28 13:03:29]	<JordanYoung> 1130-1230: RIA AJAX vs. Flash - Jeff Corkram
[2006/01/28 13:04:08]	<JordanYoung> 12-1230: XSL: FO - Greg Pearce
[2006/01/28 13:04:27]	<JordanYoung> 1P-2P LUNCH
[2006/01/28 13:05:07]	<JordanYoung> 2P- UTD Aqua Project & Rooba? - Mike Mencfee?
[2006/01/28 13:05:36]	<JordanYoung> 3P-330 - Ruby on Rails Community Brainstorm - Adam Keys
[2006/01/28 13:05:49]	<alexleverington> http://67.19.70.244:8000/movies/barcamp. sdp
[2006/01/28 13:05:53]	<alexleverington> may or maynot work
[2006/01/28 13:05:55]	<JordanYoung> 4P-5P Asterisk Implementation - Kevin Marvin
[2006/01/28 13:05:58]	<alexleverington> can someone try and connect?
[2006/01/28 13:06:07]	<JordanYoung> Mash Pit is next:
[2006/01/28 13:06:08]	<mgriego> working on it
[2006/01/28 13:06:27]	<JordanYoung> 12P-1230: Playing Well w/ Your Sysadmin - G.. Scofield
[2006/01/28 13:06:29]	<mgriego> is your firewall blocking?
[2006/01/28 13:06:43]	<JordanYoung> 1230-1: Roomba Hacking
[2006/01/28 13:06:47]	<missrogue> connecting...
[2006/01/28 13:06:51]	<alexleverington> might be...
[2006/01/28 13:07:03]	<mgriego> no, its not
[2006/01/28 13:07:07]	<mgriego> but I'm just spinning
[2006/01/28 13:07:10]	<JordanYoung> 1P-2P - OpenQRM: Going Open Source - William Hurley
[2006/01/28 13:07:16]	<missrogue> I'm just spinning as well
[2006/01/28 13:07:16]	<tantek> Asterisk is sweet. I got to learn a bit about it at the recent ETel conference this past week.
[2006/01/28 13:07:50]	* missrogue gone to go look up Asterisk
[2006/01/28 13:08:08]	<mgriego> yes, asterisk rocks

[2006/01/28 13:08:13]	<JordanYoung> 2P-3P - You Talking To Me? Relevency - Jay Fichiauos & Candy Bernhardt
[2006/01/28 13:08:20]	<tantek> tara - in short: Asterisk = open source PBC
[2006/01/28 13:08:24]	<tantek> PBX even
[2006/01/28 13:08:27]	<JordanYoung> 3P-330P - What's new in Desktop Linux
[2006/01/28 13:08:29]	<missrogue> nice
[2006/01/28 13:08:43]	<JordanYoung> 3P-330P - What's new in Desktop Linux - Joseph Hin?
[2006/01/28 13:08:47]	<mgriego> does SIP as well as connects to standard TDM channels
[2006/01/28 13:08:50]	* missrogue gone to go look up what PBX is
[2006/01/28 13:09:22]	<JordanYoung> 330-4P - Latent Semantic Analysis/Search - David Hagar
[2006/01/28 13:09:37]	<JordanYoung> that's the schedule.
[2006/01/28 13:09:39]	<missrogue> ah...I see
[2006/01/28 13:09:40]	<jakedahn> aight
[2006/01/28 13:09:55]	<missrogue> Short for private branch exchange, a private telephone network used within an enterprise. Users of the PBX share a certain number of outside lines for making telephone calls external to the PBX.
[2006/01/28 13:09:59]	<missrogue> Most medium-sized and larger companies use a PBX because it's much less expensive than connecting an external telephone line to every telephone in the organization. In addition, it's easier to call someone within a PBX because the number you need to dial is typically just 3 or 4 digits.
[2006/01/28 13:10:04]	<missrogue> A new variation on the PBX theme is the centrex, which is a PBX with all switching occurring at a local telephone office instead of at the company's premises.
[2006/01/28 13:10:11]	<missrogue> (I know y'all already knew that)
[2006/01/28 13:10:32]	<jakedahn> brb
[2006/01/28 13:11:08]	@ Quit: mgriego:
[2006/01/28 13:12:00]	<JordanYoung> okay.. now i'm going to go enjoy pizza.
[2006/01/28 13:12:02]	<JordanYoung> brb.
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[2006/01/28 13:12:50]	<ravenz> Hey guys - OpenQRM presentation in the mash pit room starting NOW
[2006/01/28 13:12:54]	<ravenz> Bring your lunch
[2006/01/28 13:12:56]	<ravenz> Eat and learn
[2006/01/28 13:13:10]	<ravenz> It's the only 1-2pm slot
[2006/01/28 13:13:18]	@ Quit: ravenzachary: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)
[2006/01/28 13:13:22]	<missrogue> no video :(
[2006/01/28 13:13:28]	<ravenz> Hi Tara!!!
[2006/01/28 13:13:33]	<missrogue> hi ravenz!
[2006/01/28 13:13:33]	<ravenz> I'm getting Chris in a few hours
[2006/01/28 13:13:44]	<missrogue> he's in phoenix, enjoying free wifi right now
[2006/01/28 13:14:01]	<jakedahn> uh whats with the video!?
[2006/01/28 13:14:07]	<jakedahn> im not gettin anything
[2006/01/28 13:14:11]	<ravenz> Lets see if I can get video going
[2006/01/28 13:14:16]	<missrogue> check his Flickr stream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/ 92226828/
[2006/01/28 13:14:36]	<missrogue> Love technology...it connects us on so many levels (when it works)
[2006/01/28 13:16:21]	<ravenz> Ok, how do you want us to broadcast this video?
[2006/01/28 13:16:24]	<ravenz> we're setting it up
[2006/01/28 13:16:26]	<missrogue> Ravenz...I hear you are setting up the coworking space over there!
[2006/01/28 13:16:34]	<missrogue> nice
[2006/01/28 13:16:34]	<ravenz> I'm trying
[2006/01/28 13:16:44]	<ravenz> I need an office and rather do it with cool people
[2006/01/28 13:16:58]	<missrogue> That rocks...Chris worked on the SF one quite a bit yesterday
[2006/01/28 13:17:07]	<missrogue> Did you see the wiki?
[2006/01/28 13:17:34]	<ravenz> How do you peopple want to consume video? ichat?
[2006/01/28 13:18:11]	<missrogue> http://coworking.pbwiki.com/
[2006/01/28 13:18:17]	<missrogue> ichat here
[2006/01/28 13:18:27]	<ravenz> THANKS!
[2006/01/28 13:18:41]	<ravenz> ok, whurleyvision
[2006/01/28 13:18:54]	<ravenz> hes donig a group chat in a sec
[2006/01/28 13:19:24]	<missrogue> whurley rocks
[2006/01/28 13:19:52]	<ravenz> ok, add whurleyvision to IM list
[2006/01/28 13:19:53]	<ravenz> ichat
[2006/01/28 13:20:10]	<rtyler> woot, ichat
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[2006/01/28 13:21:44]	<ravenz> how do we do a group video chat in ichat?!
[2006/01/28 13:21:52]	<ravenz> We're lost :)
[2006/01/28 13:22:10]	<ravenz> Can you watch a video source over ichat without hacving a camera?
[2006/01/28 13:22:38]	<ravenz> whurleyvision is up, but we're clueless on getting you people some video
[2006/01/28 13:23:25]	<rtyler> somebody has to initiate the video chat
[2006/01/28 13:23:27]	<rtyler> and then add people
[2006/01/28 13:23:38]	<missrogue> %missrogue
[2006/01/28 13:23:48]	<rtyler> %rtyler ?
[2006/01/28 13:23:50]	* rtyler giggles
[2006/01/28 13:24:02]	<jakedahn> hey is anyone working on the video stream for next presentation?
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[2006/01/28 13:25:03]	<JordanYoung> yeah
[2006/01/28 13:25:12]	<JordanYoung> the server isn't accepting the broadcast now.
[2006/01/28 13:25:16]	* missrogue is clueless about ichat...thought it would be simpler...
[2006/01/28 13:25:19]	<JordanYoung> we have the video feed locally.
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[2006/01/28 13:25:28]	<rtyler> missrogue: are you whurleyvision
[2006/01/28 13:25:36]	<missrogue> no
[2006/01/28 13:25:42]	<missrogue> william hurley would be
[2006/01/28 13:25:45]	<rtyler> who's got the camera on their mac?
[2006/01/28 13:25:51]	<JordanYoung> rtyler: alexleverington does.
[2006/01/28 13:26:07]	<rtyler> he'd have to start a video conference with somebody, and then add the other two people
[2006/01/28 13:26:14]	<rtyler> or one peoples, etc
[2006/01/28 13:26:32]	<JordanYoung> rtyler: we're just trying to get the QTSS to work right now so it can freely be viewed.
[2006/01/28 13:26:50]	<rtyler> that's a better option, I agree ;)
[2006/01/28 13:27:17]	<ravenz> we're giving up on video for whurley's chat
[2006/01/28 13:27:24]	<rtyler> heh
[2006/01/28 13:28:06]	<rtyler> if there's another camera, I wouldn't mind "participating" via iChat
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[2006/01/28 13:28:57]	<rtyler> HEH, Cocoa lightning talk via iChat AV :-P
[2006/01/28 13:28:57]	<ravenz> do you have video in ichat?
[2006/01/28 13:29:00]	* JordanYoung now has indigestion.
[2006/01/28 13:29:06]	<rtyler> ravenz: I have an iSight
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[2006/01/28 13:29:10]	<ravenz> if you have a camera, we can connect?
[2006/01/28 13:29:18]	<ravenz> ok, do a video chat request to whurleyvision
[2006/01/28 13:29:20]	* rtyler has a cocoa presentation in keynote still for what it's worth ;)
[2006/01/28 13:29:52]	<jakedahn> can anyone tell me what cgriego is doing?
[2006/01/28 13:31:00]	<rtyler> woot!
[2006/01/28 13:31:02]	<ravenz> in the hall eating i think
[2006/01/28 13:31:09]	<ravenz> can you hear william ok?
[2006/01/28 13:31:21]	<rtyler> heh, the mic needs to be turned up a bit
[2006/01/28 13:31:34]	@ Quit: jdunck: Client Quit
[2006/01/28 13:31:37]	<rtyler> I got it now ;)
[2006/01/28 13:31:39]	<ravenz> let me go tweak
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[2006/01/28 13:33:33]	<rtyler> ravenz: thanks a lot ^_^
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[2006/01/28 13:35:39]	<brianoberkirch> horsepigcow in the house
[2006/01/28 13:35:48]	<missrogue> hey brianoberkirch!
[2006/01/28 13:35:59]	<ravenz> anyone else have a video with ichat want to join
[2006/01/28 13:36:11]	<missrogue> I thought...if I can't 'be' there, I'd stop by via IRC
[2006/01/28 13:36:16]	<missrogue> ;)
[2006/01/28 13:36:30]	<rtyler> missrogue: if you want me to add you to the chat, ping me at "agentdero" on AIM
[2006/01/28 13:36:33]	<brianoberkirch> yeahyourite
[2006/01/28 13:36:43]	<rtyler> this is a cool presentation ^_^
[2006/01/28 13:37:14]	<rtyler> ravenz: are you standing in front of the iSight?
[2006/01/28 13:37:20]	<missrogue> I don't know if I'm video enabled rtyler
[2006/01/28 13:37:26]	<rtyler> got iChat?
[2006/01/28 13:37:38]	<rtyler> (and Tiger?)
[2006/01/28 13:37:52]	<alexandermuse> Hola HPC...
[2006/01/28 13:38:03]	<alexandermuse> tara...
[2006/01/28 13:38:21]	<missrogue> hey alexandermuse
[2006/01/28 13:38:37]	<ravenz> : )
[2006/01/28 13:39:14]	<ravenz> If you have a video with ichat, we can add you to the griuop
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[2006/01/28 13:39:47]	<alexandermuse> So how do I get the ichat feed?
[2006/01/28 13:40:00]	<rtyler> ping me on "agentdero"
[2006/01/28 13:40:04]	<ravenz> I think you hgave to HAVe a camera connected to watch
[2006/01/28 13:40:07]	<rtyler> I initiated the video chat
[2006/01/28 13:40:15]	<alexandermuse> ah...
[2006/01/28 13:40:23]	<rtyler> somebody's standing in the way, so you can't see mcuh anyways ;)
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[2006/01/28 13:41:09]	<ofund> I wish you could watch a video stream in iChat without a camera connected
[2006/01/28 13:41:18]	@ ofund is now known as ravenz
[2006/01/28 13:41:25]	<rtyler> I'm going to see if that's possible
[2006/01/28 13:41:29]	<ravenz> thanks
[2006/01/28 13:41:35]	<ravenz> Volume level is good?
[2006/01/28 13:41:47]	<missrogue> ofund...me 3
[2006/01/28 13:41:49]	<rtyler> yeah, is he talking about QoS now?
[2006/01/28 13:42:00]	<ravenz> www.openqrm.org
[2006/01/28 13:42:54]	<rtyler> ravenz: did he say that this works with Asterisk? :-o
[2006/01/28 13:43:04]	<ravenz> I'm not sure.
[2006/01/28 13:43:16]	<rtyler> bring it to FreeBSD, btw! ;)
[2006/01/28 13:43:22]	<ravenz> I'll tell him.
[2006/01/28 13:44:54]	<rtyler> ravenz: can we change this to an audio chat, so more people can at least listen in?
[2006/01/28 13:45:00]	<ravenz> does that help?
[2006/01/28 13:45:12]	<ravenz> ok, initiative and invite me, ill drop
[2006/01/28 13:45:16]	<rtyler> hold on
[2006/01/28 13:45:42]	<JordanYoung> somebody please tell me that's not a chicken pot pie with candles in it.
[2006/01/28 13:45:50]	<JordanYoung> @ persistent.info
[2006/01/28 13:45:51]	<ravenz> ok!
[2006/01/28 13:46:04]	<ravenz> Everyone join rtyler for audio chat
[2006/01/28 13:46:07]	<rtyler> :)
[2006/01/28 13:47:02]	<rtyler> FWIW, I turned off my mic, so there's no feedback, but if I need to chime in, i'll check the mic back on ;)
[2006/01/28 13:47:10]	<ravenz> ok
[2006/01/28 13:48:12]	<rtyler> missrogue: where are you right now
[2006/01/28 13:48:27]	<missrogue> rytler: in SF
[2006/01/28 13:48:44]	<rtyler> woohoo! we're participating ^_^
[2006/01/28 13:48:58]	<rtyler> this is interesting, i've never heard of openqrm
[2006/01/28 13:49:07]	<ravenz> It launches Monday
[2006/01/28 13:49:09]	* missrogue checking out the website
[2006/01/28 13:49:45]	<ravenz> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,191 6422,00.asp
[2006/01/28 13:49:46]	<rtyler> I wish I had the time to help out with a FreeBSD port; that'd rock my world
[2006/01/28 13:49:56]	<rtyler> neat!
[2006/01/28 13:49:57]	<JordanYoung> NOC presentation: http://67.19.70.244:8000/barcamp.sdp
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[2006/01/28 13:50:24]	<JordanYoung> audio is working as well.
[2006/01/28 13:50:34]	<jakedahn> SWEET!!
[2006/01/28 13:50:34]	<JordanYoung> presentation should start soon
[2006/01/28 13:50:39]	<JordanYoung> comp is running at 100% CPU
[2006/01/28 13:50:39]	<ravenz> AWESOME
[2006/01/28 13:50:39]	<jakedahn> thanks
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[2006/01/28 13:50:59]	<JordanYoung> 10 mins. until the presentation starts.
[2006/01/28 13:51:14]	<ravenz> Chris, someone was looking for you earlier
[2006/01/28 13:51:16]	<jakedahn> anyway to make the video bigger?
[2006/01/28 13:51:23]	<ravenz> (Chris Griego, that is)
[2006/01/28 13:51:52]	<JordanYoung> jake: we're working on that
[2006/01/28 13:52:09]	<JordanYoung> jake: it's difficult because of the processing power required. we're only on a G4/1GHz
[2006/01/28 13:52:27]	<rtyler> yipes
[2006/01/28 13:52:27]	<jakedahn> yeah
[2006/01/28 13:52:32]	<jakedahn> hmm im listening to ya
[2006/01/28 13:52:35]	<jakedahn> and it just died
[2006/01/28 13:52:42]	<jakedahn> or froze
[2006/01/28 13:52:57]	<JordanYoung> bumping data rate requirement to 512kbps
[2006/01/28 13:53:03]	<ravenz> FreeBSD: "port that shit"
[2006/01/28 13:53:05]	<ravenz> :)
[2006/01/28 13:53:08]	<ravenz> Was his answer
[2006/01/28 13:53:31]	<missrogue> oops...disconnected
[2006/01/28 13:53:34]	<missrogue> bummer
[2006/01/28 13:53:39]	<rtyler> one moment ;)
[2006/01/28 13:53:46]	<rtyler> ravenz: talking to me?
[2006/01/28 13:53:51]	<ravenz> sure
[2006/01/28 13:53:54]	<rtyler> HEH
[2006/01/28 13:54:00]	<ravenz> He wants your help
[2006/01/28 13:54:01]	<rtyler> i'll look into it ;)
[2006/01/28 13:54:07]	<missrogue> awesome
[2006/01/28 13:54:42]	<rtyler> what in the hell?
[2006/01/28 13:55:00]	<JordanYoung> jake: is the resolution better now?
[2006/01/28 13:55:01]	<rtyler> sorry missrogue, my wireless just blanked on me
[2006/01/28 13:55:16]	<missrogue> Hey, Factoryjoe had told me about this program that boosts sound on a mac, but I can't remember the name...anyone know?
[2006/01/28 13:55:31]	<ravenz> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/barcam pdallas/
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[2006/01/28 13:56:14]	<rtyler> WTF
[2006/01/28 13:56:16]	<mmenefee> I'm doing the Autonomous Underwater Vehicle preentation in the plasma screen room at	2:00 PM
[2006/01/28 13:56:22]	<mmenefee> (about 5 mins)
[2006/01/28 13:56:30]	<missrogue> Don't worry about it rtyler...I'm finding it hard to hear anyway
[2006/01/28 13:56:36]	<jakedahn> jordan young i can pretty much read that
[2006/01/28 13:56:42]	<rtyler> missrogue: hold on, i've got to go punch this router in the face
[2006/01/28 13:56:48]	<missrogue> lol
[2006/01/28 13:57:04]	<missrogue> routers are our friends, rtyler
[2006/01/28 13:57:24]	<missrogue> ;)
[2006/01/28 13:57:42]	<jakedahn> jordanyoung: its great
[2006/01/28 13:57:47]	<jakedahn> right there!
[2006/01/28 13:57:52]	<jakedahn> good font
[2006/01/28 13:58:00]	<JordanYoung> jake: awesome.
[2006/01/28 13:58:09]	<JordanYoung> wow
[2006/01/28 13:58:10]	<rtyler> ravenz: I'm going to have to figure this out; for some reason it's dropping in and out on me
[2006/01/28 13:58:13]	<JordanYoung> it does look pretty good.
[2006/01/28 13:58:20]	* rtyler prepares to give ISP a call
[2006/01/28 13:58:32]	@ Quit: jimyoung: Client Quit
[2006/01/28 13:58:43]	<jakedahn> dude thanks for teh video~!!!
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[2006/01/28 13:58:57]	<JordanYoung> jake: thank alexleverington. :)
[2006/01/28 13:59:25]	<rtyler> alexleverington: thanks for teh video
[2006/01/28 13:59:33]	<rtyler> ravenz: can you ask a question for me now? :D
[2006/01/28 13:59:38]	<ravenz> yes, what?
[2006/01/28 14:00:10]	<rtyler> well, I'm curious, this seems almost like cluster-webmin; how closely tied is it to the operating system (re: FreeBSD port ;))
[2006/01/28 14:00:16]	<JordanYoung> damn leg is going to sleep.
[2006/01/28 14:00:28]	<ravenz> let me ask
[2006/01/28 14:00:40]	<jakedahn> jordanyoung: is there anyway to record this stream?
[2006/01/28 14:00:42]	@ Quit: cks:
[2006/01/28 14:00:52]	<rtyler> jakedahn: Audio Hijack pro? :D
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[2006/01/28 14:00:56]	<JordanYoung> jake: i think Alex said that he is getting a local copy of it as well.
[2006/01/28 14:01:06]	<alexandermuse> Hey, what is the address of the feed?
[2006/01/28 14:01:15]	<JordanYoung> http://67.19.70.244:8000/barcamp.sdp
[2006/01/28 14:01:16]	<rtyler> http://67.19.70.244:8000/barcamp.sdp
[2006/01/28 14:01:19]	<rtyler> HEH
[2006/01/28 14:01:31]	<ravenz> IT's not closely tied to teh OS.
[2006/01/28 14:01:32]	<JordanYoung> rtyler: omgwtfbbq
[2006/01/28 14:01:33]	<alexandermuse> That is a small frame... :)
[2006/01/28 14:01:37]	@ Quit: gregpierce: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
[2006/01/28 14:01:38]	<alexandermuse> Just got bigger...
[2006/01/28 14:01:41]	<rtyler> it grows ;)
[2006/01/28 14:01:42]	<ravenz> He wants to answer this question offline, as the room is changing
[2006/01/28 14:01:47]	<alexandermuse> Maybe point it at the speaker?
[2006/01/28 14:02:01]	<ravenz> whurley@qlusters.com (Hurley II <whurley@qlusters.com>)
[2006/01/28 14:02:04]	<ravenz> email him
[2006/01/28 14:02:11]	<rtyler> heh, can do ;)
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[2006/01/28 14:02:21]	<jakedahn> tell him to speak up!
[2006/01/28 14:02:44]	<JordanYoung> need more volume for sure.
[2006/01/28 14:02:45]	<alexleverington> is the video stream working?
[2006/01/28 14:02:46]	<jakedahn> NOO!
[2006/01/28 14:02:49]	<jakedahn> put video back up
[2006/01/28 14:02:55]	<jakedahn> ok better
[2006/01/28 14:02:58]	<tantek> could someone set the /topic to the current preso title?
[2006/01/28 14:02:59]	<rtyler> MONKEY!
[2006/01/28 14:03:10]	<jeremykleindl> it's too bright behind jeremy for the camera to see him
[2006/01/28 14:03:28]	<JordanYoung> alexleverington: is it possible to increase the volume of the stream?
[2006/01/28 14:03:37]	<alexleverington> not from here, only from the camera
[2006/01/28 14:03:41]	<rtyler> increase the mic volume?
[2006/01/28 14:03:48]	<alexleverington> oh, hrm, wait a sec
[2006/01/28 14:03:50]	<alexleverington> heh, yeah
[2006/01/28 14:03:51]	<alexandermuse> Perhaps plug in one of the mics to the camera?
[2006/01/28 14:03:53]	<alexleverington> *kills stream*
[2006/01/28 14:04:19]	<JordanYoung> yep.. stream is dead.
[2006/01/28 14:04:22]	<alexleverington> okay, restart the stream...should be louder
[2006/01/28 14:04:44]	<jakedahn> WAYY BETTER!
[2006/01/28 14:04:46]	<jakedahn> thank you
[2006/01/28 14:04:50]	<alexleverington> sweet
[2006/01/28 14:04:51]	<JordanYoung> awesome.
[2006/01/28 14:05:00]	<JordanYoung> pron spam.
[2006/01/28 14:05:13]	<jakedahn> can you tall him to up the font by 1 notch?
[2006/01/28 14:05:25]	@ Quit: ravenz: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)
[2006/01/28 14:05:26]	<JordanYoung> jake: not really possible at this time.
[2006/01/28 14:05:41]	<tantek> nice audio
[2006/01/28 14:05:49]	<jakedahn> damn, meh its still readable
[2006/01/28 14:06:06]	<jakedahn> i tried to max the video to full screen and killed the text
[2006/01/28 14:06:54]	<JordanYoung> yippee.. getting font size increase.
[2006/01/28 14:07:05]	<jakedahn> i heard
[2006/01/28 14:07:07]	<jakedahn> hehe
[2006/01/28 14:07:12]	<jakedahn> this is a slick setup
[2006/01/28 14:07:14]	<jakedahn> FINE
[2006/01/28 14:07:16]	<rtyler> HEH
[2006/01/28 14:07:17]	<JordanYoung> how bout them apples.
[2006/01/28 14:07:19]	<jakedahn> perfect font
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[2006/01/28 14:07:50]	<rtyler> is this an AJAX tutorial?
[2006/01/28 14:08:01]	<rtyler> ravenz: thanks for all the help and cooperation :D
[2006/01/28 14:08:04]	<jakedahn> javascript/greasemonkey
[2006/01/28 14:08:06]	* rtyler sent off that email
[2006/01/28 14:08:11]	<rtyler> greasemonkey is teh awesome
[2006/01/28 14:08:17]	<ravenz> sure
[2006/01/28 14:08:20]	<alexleverington> live from a powerbook g4...whicih barely has the muscl to encode this
[2006/01/28 14:08:21]	<ravenz> wish it was a smoother process
[2006/01/28 14:08:27]	<rtyler> HEH
[2006/01/28 14:08:29]	<alexleverington> speaking of which, if you're on windows you have to have quicktime7
[2006/01/28 14:08:34]	<rtyler> yep
[2006/01/28 14:08:46]	<JordanYoung> alexleverington: yep.
[2006/01/28 14:08:55]	<JordanYoung> alexleverington: it's a bitch because now you have to install iTunes with it.
[2006/01/28 14:09:01]	<rtyler> heh
[2006/01/28 14:09:08]	<jakedahn> lol yeah
[2006/01/28 14:09:28]	<jakedahn> that metal umlaut page is famous
[2006/01/28 14:09:29]	<jakedahn> !
[2006/01/28 14:09:40]	<rtyler> heh
[2006/01/28 14:09:52]	<rtyler> it's going to get the most hits it's ever had today :-P
[2006/01/28 14:10:18]	<jakedahn> i doubt it, it was on the screensavers a year or 2 ago
[2006/01/28 14:10:21]	<alexleverington> i wish I had enough cpu to touch the wiki w/o hosing the video stream
[2006/01/28 14:10:34]	<missrogue> Can somebody help Factoryjoe out: http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/01/28/cu rse-of-a-thousand-blocked-ports/
[2006/01/28 14:10:38]	<rtyler> jakedahn: I've not had a tv much over the past couple years ;)
[2006/01/28 14:10:50]	<missrogue> Then he can join the IRC while he waits in Phoenix
[2006/01/28 14:10:59]	<jakedahn> rtyler: same here, i havent watched any of it for bout 4 months
[2006/01/28 14:11:11]	<jakedahn> if i even use a tv its for Halo 2 on xbox live
[2006/01/28 14:11:34]	<rtyler> missrogue: connect to a SOCKS proxy, run XChat over proxy
[2006/01/28 14:11:54]	<jakedahn> hahaha, i know one of the guys who manages that site...
[2006/01/28 14:12:02]	<missrogue> ryler...do you have a link? I'm not so technical
[2006/01/28 14:12:23]	<brianoberkirch> candy & jay are talking relevancy & user experience in the mash pit room
[2006/01/28 14:13:23]	<alexleverington> next barcamp we should maybe have video/audio streams for each room (even just audio would be great, I can't be in two rooms at once)
[2006/01/28 14:13:34]	<jakedahn> jordanyoung: is this being recorded?
[2006/01/28 14:13:36]	<rtyler> for sure :)
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[2006/01/28 14:14:08]	<rtyler> missrogue: let me find something
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[2006/01/28 14:14:10]	<rtyler> is he on a Mac
[2006/01/28 14:14:15]	<jeremykleindl> I'm recording separate audio in quicktime
[2006/01/28 14:14:19]	<missrogue> yes
[2006/01/28 14:14:19]	<cgriego> http://barcamp.org/Schedule - content updated, reformating now
[2006/01/28 14:14:24]	<missrogue> he's on a Mac
[2006/01/28 14:14:28]	<jeremykleindl> for later use
[2006/01/28 14:14:38]	<alexleverington> jeremykleindl: sweet, are you ni here or the mash pit? (the audio/video is being recorded from the broadcast)
[2006/01/28 14:14:49]	<jakedahn> jesse is ma homie!
[2006/01/28 14:14:53]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 14:15:22]	<jeremykleindl> front row. i'm also running the camera.. :)
[2006/01/28 14:15:29]	<rtyler> missrogue: System Preferences > Network > Airport > Proxies
[2006/01/28 14:15:41]	<missrogue> k
[2006/01/28 14:15:43]	<rtyler> enter in a SOCKS 5 proxy http://www.samair.ru/proxy/socks.htm
[2006/01/28 14:15:47]	<jakedahn> jeremykleindl: do you have a link ?
[2006/01/28 14:15:51]	<rtyler> what IRC client doe she have?
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[2006/01/28 14:16:02]	<missrogue> factoryjoe?
[2006/01/28 14:16:08]	<rtyler> he
[2006/01/28 14:16:10]	<rtyler> :p
[2006/01/28 14:16:14]	<missrogue> (aka Chris Messina) lol
[2006/01/28 14:16:22]	<missrogue> he uses Colloquy, I believe
[2006/01/28 14:16:37]	<jakedahn> yaeh he does, hes a Colloquy feind!
[2006/01/28 14:16:45]	<jeremykleindl> nope. the audio will get up on the wiki soon (like ina few days)
[2006/01/28 14:16:56]	<rtyler> Chris Messina is having trouble with this?
[2006/01/28 14:17:13]	* rtyler wants to send him the howto setup Flock with Proxies :P
[2006/01/28 14:17:38]	<alexleverington> sorry, camera is going into demo mode
[2006/01/28 14:17:45]	<alexleverington> old cams freak out when they do DV streams
[2006/01/28 14:17:54]	<jakedahn> WOAH !!
[2006/01/28 14:17:57]	<jakedahn> ZOOMED IN!
[2006/01/28 14:17:58]	<missrogue> he's not a 'developer' like many people think...he is a UI designer (knows how to hack away a bit) and the open source ambassador
[2006/01/28 14:18:10]	<jakedahn> someone zoom out the video
[2006/01/28 14:18:11]	<rtyler> missrogue: just find a SOCKS 5 proxy from that list tat's in the US
[2006/01/28 14:18:15]	<JordanYoung> working on it
[2006/01/28 14:18:18]	<JordanYoung> camera is being reset.
[2006/01/28 14:18:22]	<jakedahn> ah
[2006/01/28 14:18:43]	<rtyler> zoom in further! I want to see individual pixels!@
[2006/01/28 14:18:51]	<JordanYoung> you clearly can.
[2006/01/28 14:18:52]	<JordanYoung> heh
[2006/01/28 14:18:58]	<JordanYoung> that camera is acting very weird.
[2006/01/28 14:18:58]	<jakedahn> rtyler: i already can!
[2006/01/28 14:19:00]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 14:19:09]	<JordanYoung> voila!
[2006/01/28 14:19:20]	<jakedahn> cant read it now
[2006/01/28 14:19:21]	<jakedahn> :-\
[2006/01/28 14:19:25]	<rtyler> I wonder what's causing the latency... :P
[2006/01/28 14:19:38]	<alexleverington> a lot of cameras go into demo mode after sitting for a few mins
[2006/01/28 14:19:40]	<JordanYoung> we have it set to 10fps for highest resolution
[2006/01/28 14:19:42]	<JordanYoung> 512kbps.
[2006/01/28 14:20:17]	<alexleverington> 640x480, 10 fps...1ghz g4 won't really encode anything higher than that very well
[2006/01/28 14:20:34]	<missrogue> rtyler: thanks!
[2006/01/28 14:20:49]	<rtyler> did it work for him.
[2006/01/28 14:20:56]	<jakedahn> grr, wanna tell em to hit CMD, + like 2 times?
[2006/01/28 14:21:04]	<jakedahn> make the font a bit bigger
[2006/01/28 14:21:04]	<rtyler> in the connection details in Colloquy you can add the proxies
[2006/01/28 14:21:08]	<JordanYoung> whoa
[2006/01/28 14:21:08]	<JordanYoung> heh
[2006/01/28 14:21:13]	<JordanYoung> how bout that?
[2006/01/28 14:21:32]	<JordanYoung> it was just one site though
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[2006/01/28 14:22:34]	<alexleverington> is there more pizza besides what is by the front door?
[2006/01/28 14:22:42]	<jakedahn> book burro is teh shit!
[2006/01/28 14:23:19]	<JordanYoung> yeah... that's pretty nifty.
[2006/01/28 14:23:25]	<rtyler> missrogue: is he making any progress?
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[2006/01/28 14:23:43]	<jakedahn> brought to you by: http://overstimulate.com/
[2006/01/28 14:24:14]	<missrogue> I don't know...we're doing this through total smoke signals 2.0 (meaning, he can only post on his blog...so I left all of the instructions in his comments section.)
[2006/01/28 14:24:28]	<rtyler> does he have a bloody telephone? :P
[2006/01/28 14:24:46]	<jakedahn> tell em to call in to someone to listen
[2006/01/28 14:24:47]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 14:24:53]	<rtyler> HEH
[2006/01/28 14:25:42]	<jakedahn> how many people are in the room right now?
[2006/01/28 14:25:51]	<missrogue> phone call? like voice?
[2006/01/28 14:25:55]	<JordanYoung> just to post it again in case anybody has missed it, the stream from the NOC is at: http://67.19.70.244:8000/barcamp.sdp
	[2006/01/28 14:25:57] <alexleverington> Current Throughput:  2877.430Kbps
[2006/01/28 14:25:59]	<missrogue> that's just odd

[2006/01/28 14:26:00]	<missrogue> LOL
[2006/01/28 14:26:01]	<alexleverington> the server loves the video users
[2006/01/28 14:26:22]	<alexleverington> by my count there are 19 people in the room
[2006/01/28 14:26:28]	<jakedahn> aye
[2006/01/28 14:26:32]	<rtyler> missrogue: 209.63.57.	10:80
[2006/01/28 14:26:40]	<rtyler> that's a decent port 80 proxy
[2006/01/28 14:26:41]	<alexleverington> there's like 8 people in the mash pit and another 10-15 or so elsewhere
[2006/01/28 14:26:47]	<rtyler> he might want to add that as the HTTP Proxy
[2006/01/28 14:26:55]	<rtyler> but it should work as the SOCKS proxy
[2006/01/28 14:27:16]	<rtyler> wait, that one is an HTTP proxy
[2006/01/28 14:27:17]	<rtyler> rats
[2006/01/28 14:27:33]	<JordanYoung> looks like the rain has cleared up.
[2006/01/28 14:27:39]	* missrogue laughing as she picks up the phone and dials
[2006/01/28 14:27:42]	<jakedahn> lol!
[2006/01/28 14:27:47]	<jakedahn> eewww walmart
[2006/01/28 14:29:04]	<cks> excellent , just saw the video feed
[2006/01/28 14:29:08]	<missrogue> rtyler: this totally reminds me of the time a bunch of us geeks were lost in London, trying to access wifi and using our blackberries, etc. to retrieve maps...then after about 1/2 hour of this somebody says, "Hey, I have a paper map. Does that help?"
[2006/01/28 14:29:19]	<rtyler> HEH
[2006/01/28 14:29:32]	<tantek> a turnkey solution for setting up an ssh tunneling proxy server on port 443 would be quite useful.
[2006/01/28 14:29:57]	<missrogue> Yeah, as Chris mentions in his post, he's not familiar with tunneling.
[2006/01/28 14:30:01]	<JordanYoung> cam is probably about to go back into demo mode.
[2006/01/28 14:30:03]	<tantek> since typically port 443 is also open (in addition to port 80) pretty much everywhere
[2006/01/28 14:30:09]	<rtyler> SSH does SOCKS 5 proxies, so if he has a host he can SSH into
[2006/01/28 14:30:14]	<rtyler> but there's the whole port 80 thing
[2006/01/28 14:30:36]	<missrogue> Hacking the Phoenix Airport Wifi 101
[2006/01/28 14:31:07]	<bingeldac> I can forward a port from my hose for him
[2006/01/28 14:31:40]	<bingeldac> so I could put up rinetd on port 80 on my home box to forward out to freenode 6667
[2006/01/28 14:31:40]	<jeremykleindl> i keep hitting the menu button to keep the camera from sleeping..
[2006/01/28 14:31:47]	<rtyler> HEH
[2006/01/28 14:31:53]	<rtyler> bingeldac: that'd be cool
[2006/01/28 14:32:08]	<bingeldac> let me see if I have rinetd installed on my home server
[2006/01/28 14:32:13]	<JordanYoung> i can set up a forward from/to if that's all you need.
[2006/01/28 14:32:27]	<missrogue> We totally have to publish this stuff
[2006/01/28 14:32:29]	<bingeldac> thats probably the easiest thing
[2006/01/28 14:32:34]	<bingeldac> you mean the irc log?
[2006/01/28 14:32:46]	<JordanYoung> you need a port 80 on one side and what on the other?
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[2006/01/28 14:33:03]	<bingeldac> well you need 80 -> freenode 6667
[2006/01/28 14:33:08]	<JordanYoung> okay...
[2006/01/28 14:34:01]	<cgriego> barcampdallas and DalBot are both logging right?
[2006/01/28 14:34:10]	<bingeldac> yeah DalBot is
[2006/01/28 14:34:13]	<bingeldac> from my house
[2006/01/28 14:34:25]	<bingeldac> I can rsync the log up to my server I suppose
[2006/01/28 14:34:40]	<bingeldac> or do a post of it to the barcamp wiki
[2006/01/28 14:34:51]	<JordanYoung> bingeldac: try /server 63.249.35.1 80
[2006/01/28 14:35:21]	<JordanYoung> argh. not working yet.
[2006/01/28 14:36:21]	<JordanYoung> ouch. need to null route it upstream first. sec.
[2006/01/28 14:37:13]	<rtyler> blakestar: it'd be cool to take a LOT of the audio from this, and mix it together for a special edition CocoaRadio podcast ;)
[2006/01/28 14:37:25]	<bingeldac> I have rinetd working for the irc too
[2006/01/28 14:37:29]	<rtyler> oh wait, i'd have to cut all that together...rats :P
[2006/01/28 14:37:38]	<bingeldac> if you we want to go that route, but is on my dsl
[2006/01/28 14:38:04]	<blakestar> been grabbing audio interviews but for general BarCamp posting
[2006/01/28 14:38:15]	<blakestar> maybe find the cocoa crowd later
[2006/01/28 14:38:37]	<jakedahn> hey peoples with video can you go to: 03:00-03:30 Ruby on Rails Community Brainstorm - Adam Keys
[2006/01/28 14:38:41]	<jakedahn> later?
[2006/01/28 14:38:43]	<jakedahn> ?
[2006/01/28 14:38:57]	<blakestar> Jeremy Dunck is Greasemonkey diva
[2006/01/28 14:39:02]	<rtyler> LOL
[2006/01/28 14:39:17]	<cgriego> I gotta ask about that shirt
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[2006/01/28 14:39:59]	<JordanYoung> i can't seem to get this thing to forward the packets correctly.
[2006/01/28 14:40:06]	<bingeldac> k
[2006/01/28 14:40:09]	<cgriego> aww, CafePress
[2006/01/28 14:40:11]	<bingeldac> I am testing mine now
[2006/01/28 14:40:44]	<JordanYoung> jake: depends on what our significant others are doing... alexleverington and i are together today.
[2006/01/28 14:40:59]	<jakedahn> ahh
[2006/01/28 14:41:18]	<jakedahn> ask em:
[2006/01/28 14:41:20]	<jakedahn> ;)
[2006/01/28 14:41:54]	<jakedahn> ruby and rails is at the height of my interest at the moment, and id love this see something relating to it
[2006/01/28 14:41:54]	<cgriego> the greasemonkey shirts are from cafepress
[2006/01/28 14:43:04]	<missrogue> y'all should check out goodstorm for swag
[2006/01/28 14:43:25]	<jakedahn> missrouge: huh?
[2006/01/28 14:43:26]	<missrogue> http://www.goodstorm.com/ open source
[2006/01/28 14:43:31]	<missrogue> open source swag
[2006/01/28 14:43:47]	<jakedahn> sweet
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[2006/01/28 14:44:03]	<JordanYoung> somebody cranked up the a/c in here.
[2006/01/28 14:44:08]	<missrogue> if you are getting t-shirts printed, it's the way to go...and you make more $$ as the designer
[2006/01/28 14:44:19]	<bingeldac> k
[2006/01/28 14:44:37]	<bingeldac> my solution is slow but I will comment on Chris's blog
[2006/01/28 14:44:58]	<jakedahn> eww windows
[2006/01/28 14:46:30]	<therealadam> I've uploaded slides for my Web Services with Ruby presentation
[2006/01/28 14:46:35]	<jakedahn> oo, this should be good
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[2006/01/28 14:47:00]	<therealadam> http://therealadam.com/barcamp/wsr-barca mp/ or http://therealadam.com/barcamp/wsr-barca mp.zip
[2006/01/28 14:47:18]	<brianoberkirch> will everyone presenting today please post up presos and put the link on the wiki?
[2006/01/28 14:47:19]	<therealadam> might not stay there permanently, but should stay there for the foreseeable future
[2006/01/28 14:47:25]	<JordanYoung> i cannot force my router to do the translation of traffic to an outside address.
[2006/01/28 14:47:35]	<brianoberkirch> thanks adam
[2006/01/28 14:48:01]	<therealadam> brianoberkirch: np
[2006/01/28 14:48:06]	<therealadam> are there any SEE notes up yet
[2006/01/28 14:48:09]	* jdunck wipes brow.
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[2006/01/28 14:48:21]	<jakedahn> damn i cant read the html
[2006/01/28 14:48:26]	<grant_> its alive..
[2006/01/28 14:48:27]	<grant_> alive..
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[2006/01/28 14:48:59]	<jakedahn> is this uploaded to the net anywhere?
[2006/01/28 14:49:38]	<bingeldac> Does anyone have Chris's phone number?
[2006/01/28 14:51:11]	<alexandermuse> Hey, is Kevin online?
[2006/01/28 14:51:23]	<JordanYoung> alexandermuse: i haven't seen him type anything in a while.
[2006/01/28 14:51:43]	<alexandermuse> So, if someone sees him have him change the right projector to show the flickr stream...
[2006/01/28 14:52:01]	<cgriego> http://barcamp.org/Schedule now pretty and linked up for presentation materials
[2006/01/28 14:52:07]	<blakestar> CKS: 214.914.9791
[2006/01/28 14:52:15]	<blakestar> mobile#
[2006/01/28 14:52:22]	<jakedahn> cgriego: sweet
[2006/01/28 14:53:07]	<missrogue> bingeldac: Chris Messina?
[2006/01/28 14:53:58]	* rtyler DDoS's Messina's cell.. :P
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[2006/01/28 14:54:21]	<ravenz> Anyone know how long the dleay is when you open a Flickr account for tagged photos to show up?
[2006/01/28 14:54:48]	<missrogue> I did try calling him earlier...he may be on the plane by now...he wasn't picking up (if it is Messina you are looking for bingeldac)
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[2006/01/28 14:55:18]	<ravenz> Chris is on the plane, he arrives in one hour.
[2006/01/28 14:55:22]	<ravenz> Leaving in 30 to pick him up
[2006/01/28 14:55:46]	* therealadam goes meatspace
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[2006/01/28 14:56:52]	<missrogue> ravenz: there shouldn't be any delay...
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[2006/01/28 14:59:02]	<ravenz> http://www.americawest.com/AWA/flightinf ormation/FlightStatus.aspx
[2006/01/28 14:59:07]	<ravenz> flight 544 is coming in early!
[2006/01/28 14:59:16]	<ravenz> woot
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[2006/01/28 14:59:52]	<cgriego> good job to whoever hookedup the right projector to Flickr
[2006/01/28 15:00:15]	<missrogue> lol ... what do you guys have planned for tomorrow?
[2006/01/28 15:00:20]	<JordanYoung> they did it through vnc.
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[2006/01/28 15:01:15]	<missrogue> man...218 photos already! Those Texans sure know how to document an event!
[2006/01/28 15:01:18]	<missrogue> ;)
[2006/01/28 15:01:25]	<ravenz> Love the Flickr slideshow on the projector
[2006/01/28 15:01:28]	<JordanYoung> haha
[2006/01/28 15:01:40]	<ravenz> It's the only even we have. Our cameras are ready!
[2006/01/28 15:01:43]	<ravenz> :)
[2006/01/28 15:01:44]	@ Quit: Severian: Client Quit
[2006/01/28 15:01:45]	<missrogue> (being originally an Alberta girl - the Texas of Canada - I'm snap happy too!)
[2006/01/28 15:01:56]	<missrogue> lol
[2006/01/28 15:02:02]	<JordanYoung> i'm going to stand for a moment. brb.
[2006/01/28 15:02:03]	<jakedahn> jordanyoung: pan the camera to the flickr show
[2006/01/28 15:02:03]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 15:02:25]	<JordanYoung> pointing now.
[2006/01/28 15:03:21]	<jakedahn> woah 47 sec lag
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[2006/01/28 15:03:40]	<jakedahn> yeah cant see felickr show
[2006/01/28 15:03:41]	<jakedahn> too dark
[2006/01/28 15:04:14]	<JordanYoung> it's gotta have the button pressed to continue it looping.
[2006/01/28 15:04:25]	<jakedahn> click it
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[2006/01/28 15:06:46]	<jakedahn> 03:00-03:30 Ruby on Rails Community Brainstorming - Adam Keys now?
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[2006/01/28 15:07:10]	<jakedahn> tony were you the one who just did the image crop presentation?
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[2006/01/28 15:09:51]	<jakedahn> what are you doing to camera?!
[2006/01/28 15:11:03]	<jakedahn> dude, is there anyway to move the camera a few feet to the left?
[2006/01/28 15:12:16]	<alexleverington> is camera better?
[2006/01/28 15:12:18]	<ravenz> is camera ok
[2006/01/28 15:12:19]	<ravenz> ?
[2006/01/28 15:12:21]	<jakedahn> i love you too!
[2006/01/28 15:12:25]	<alexleverington> okay, intermission :D
[2006/01/28 15:12:28]	<jakedahn> camera is perfect
[2006/01/28 15:12:29]	* alexleverington away
[2006/01/28 15:12:34]	<ravenz> we have no audience
[2006/01/28 15:12:36]	<ravenz> going to collect them
[2006/01/28 15:12:38]	<ravenz> !
[2006/01/28 15:12:43]	<jakedahn> 03:00-03:30 BarCamp Austin - William Hurley !!!
[2006/01/28 15:12:44]	<jakedahn> NOW!
[2006/01/28 15:12:50]	<jakedahn> Operations Room
[2006/01/28 15:12:51]	<jakedahn> RUN!
[2006/01/28 15:12:53]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 15:14:06]	<ravenz> audience is comi ng
[2006/01/28 15:16:57]	<JordanYoung> heh
[2006/01/28 15:16:58]	<ravenz> "negotiating"
[2006/01/28 15:16:59]	<JordanYoung> we're here.
[2006/01/28 15:17:47]	<alexleverington> ravenz; working now?
[2006/01/28 15:17:58]	<alexleverington> what's in operations room/
[2006/01/28 15:18:00]	<JordanYoung> stream is very blurry right now
[2006/01/28 15:18:14]	<jakedahn> sweet
[2006/01/28 15:18:21]	<jakedahn> superhappydev in texas
[2006/01/28 15:18:44]	<ravenz> still blurry?
[2006/01/28 15:18:50]	<jakedahn> yep
[2006/01/28 15:18:52]	<JordanYoung> a little.
[2006/01/28 15:18:54]	<ravenz> ops room in BarCampAustin
[2006/01/28 15:19:01]	<ravenz> is
[2006/01/28 15:19:03]	<jakedahn> the word Austin in at the top is a bit blurry
[2006/01/28 15:19:05]	<JordanYoung> i don't think we're going to do much better than that. looks like it's the camera that has the problem.
[2006/01/28 15:19:19]	<jakedahn> yeah its still good
[2006/01/28 15:19:41]	<JordanYoung> haha
[2006/01/28 15:19:46]	<JordanYoung> nice logo.s.
[2006/01/28 15:19:47]	<JordanYoung> grr
[2006/01/28 15:19:48]	<JordanYoung> logos.
[2006/01/28 15:20:14]	<Tony_L> jakedahn: yes, that was me...
[2006/01/28 15:20:16]	@ Quit: MikeM: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
[2006/01/28 15:20:20]	<ravenz> Cthullllllludillo!
[2006/01/28 15:20:51]	<jakedahn> Tony_L: if you ever finish it and upload it somewhere or just get a .zip of it want to send it to me at admin@jakedahn.com ?
[2006/01/28 15:21:10]	<Tony_L> sure, no problem.
[2006/01/28 15:21:22]	<jakedahn> that is an awesome webapp fun stuff ;) no more need to open gimp or PS

[2006/01/28 15:22:42]	<Tony_L> Thanks, it's a work in progress...
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[2006/01/28 15:23:51]	<ravenz> ok, off to get the Christer.
[2006/01/28 15:23:54]	<ravenz> back at 5pm
[2006/01/28 15:23:59]	<ravenz> Central
[2006/01/28 15:24:05]	<jakedahn> ravenz?
[2006/01/28 15:24:08]	<jakedahn> where are you goin?
[2006/01/28 15:24:08]	<ravenz> yeah
[2006/01/28 15:24:12]	<ravenz> airport to get messina
[2006/01/28 15:24:15]	@ Quit: ravenz: Remote closed the connection
[2006/01/28 15:25:01]	<alexandermuse> Woot!
[2006/01/28 15:25:28]	<jakedahn> 03:30-04:00 Rethinking GMail - Mike Menefee
[2006/01/28 15:25:30]	<jakedahn> is next
[2006/01/28 15:25:31]	<jakedahn> !
[2006/01/28 15:25:45]	<jakedahn> http://barcamp.org/Schedule
[2006/01/28 15:26:08]	<jakedahn> dude that was tight
[2006/01/28 15:26:12]	<jakedahn> keep makin the musci
[2006/01/28 15:26:17]	<JordanYoung> yaay!
[2006/01/28 15:26:18]	<jakedahn> eww, not that
[2006/01/28 15:26:25]	<jakedahn> i liked the stomping
[2006/01/28 15:26:32]	<jakedahn> play some metal or somthgin!
[2006/01/28 15:26:34]	<jakedahn> ill send an mp3
[2006/01/28 15:26:35]	<jakedahn> lol
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[2006/01/28 15:27:39]	<jakedahn> Jordanyoung: Hey can you catch Chirs's Flock talk later?
[2006/01/28 15:27:46]	<jakedahn> i really want to see what he has to say now
[2006/01/28 15:28:04]	* jakedahn is a flock grunt/bug worker /mini haker
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[2006/01/28 15:32:15]	<jakedahn> OPS ROOM - 03:30-04:00 Rethinking GMail - Mike Menefee
[2006/01/28 15:32:54]	<JordanYoung> jake: depends on what alex wants to do. i need to go track him down.
[2006/01/28 15:33:12]	<jakedahn> damn, yeah track him down and say Flock will blow his mind!
[2006/01/28 15:33:12]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 15:33:16]	<jakedahn> he needs to go ;)
[2006/01/28 15:34:00]	<JordanYoung> mike is being quiet.
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[2006/01/28 15:36:47]	<cgriego> yes he is, and I'm on the vidfeed from the signup booth
[2006/01/28 15:36:51]	<cgriego> desk even
[2006/01/28 15:36:59]	<JordanYoung> wtf?
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[2006/01/28 15:37:58]	<alexandermuse> Caffo?
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[2006/01/28 15:39:00]	<alexandermuse> I turned down the hvac... everyone comfortable?
[2006/01/28 15:39:13]	<JordanYoung> mike has some really good ideas so far. it would make everybody's job much easier.
[2006/01/28 15:39:21]	<JordanYoung> alex: thanks! it was getting cold over here.
[2006/01/28 15:40:02]	<jakedahn> jordanyoung: is that the alex that you are with?
[2006/01/28 15:40:13]	<JordanYoung> jake: nope. alexleverington is who i am with.
[2006/01/28 15:40:20]	<JordanYoung> alexandermuse is sitting about 6 seats down.
[2006/01/28 15:40:21]	<jakedahn> ahh
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[2006/01/28 15:43:21]	<JordanYoung> so the way i am interpreting this presentation so far is that you still have a single data storage device (NAS assumed) and then having 4 separate servers that interpret that data and pass it to the end user.
[2006/01/28 15:43:47]	<mgriego> Yeah, sort of like protocol mediators
[2006/01/28 15:44:49]	<mgriego> the point of the single store is to have all sort of meta data associated with each piece of data, then each connector will look for certain metadata or interpret the content
[2006/01/28 15:45:08]	<alexleverington> like a general ledger?
[2006/01/28 15:45:26]	<JordanYoung> i'm actually kinda confused about it right now. A database is still a central data server, so why would you avoid a SQL server?
[2006/01/28 15:45:37]	<alexleverington> ... that's literally how microsoft exchange works
[2006/01/28 15:45:49]	<kevinmarvin> It also provides indexing of the data, possibly federation of servers for replication / storage, management of identity...
[2006/01/28 15:45:49]	<mgriego> you wouldn't necessarily, but an SQL server isn't exactly optimized for this sort of use
[2006/01/28 15:46:11]	<kevinmarvin> The largest problem with email is the lack of federated identity.
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[2006/01/28 15:46:23]	<JordanYoung> hmm... i see.
[2006/01/28 15:46:41]	<alexleverington> and certifying the identities
[2006/01/28 15:47:04]	<kevinmarvin> I get spam because it is anonymous - what he is talking about is central management / storage of all data types
[2006/01/28 15:47:16]	<kevinmarvin> the permissive model requires federation
[2006/01/28 15:47:23]	<mgriego> agreed
[2006/01/28 15:47:26]	<JordanYoung> you're absolutely correct.
[2006/01/28 15:48:04]	<cgriego> Is there anyone willing to take over the Signup Desk at 4:00? Easy job and there is the video feed
[2006/01/28 15:48:11]	<mgriego> I'd want a filter still to keep somewhat trusted users (grandma) from sending me crap all the time :)
[2006/01/28 15:48:24]	<JordanYoung> heh
[2006/01/28 15:49:04]	<alexleverington> changing to a new transport for email is only as hard as it is to change your email address or phone number...
[2006/01/28 15:49:20]	<JordanYoung> i just had an epiphany.
[2006/01/28 15:49:22]	<alexleverington> people just need to do it...that's the hard part (and defining 'it')
[2006/01/28 15:49:27]	<brianoberkirch> Hey is John Keehler here?
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[2006/01/28 15:50:26]	<blakestar> where is Keeler? I'll call him
[2006/01/28 15:50:57]	<alexandermuse> Hope someone is writing this down.
[2006/01/28 15:51:10]	<dsaint> BFS on BeOS stored everything as an object with attributes that you could query like a database.
[2006/01/28 15:51:19]	<rtyler> is Messina on the way? :P
[2006/01/28 15:51:23]	<alexandermuse> Yes
[2006/01/28 15:51:29]	<alexandermuse> Raven went to pick him up.
[2006/01/28 15:51:40]	<jakedahn> someone slap Messina and tell him to finish my questions :)
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[2006/01/28 15:51:50]	<mgriego> BFS is exactly the kind of thing I was thinking about
[2006/01/28 15:51:52]	<alexandermuse> *slap*
[2006/01/28 15:51:55]	<mgriego> it got very close to an SQL-like filesystem
[2006/01/28 15:52:23]	<alexleverington> mgriego: well, between tiger and winfs, we're supposed to have that in a year or two
[2006/01/28 15:52:32]	<mgriego> That's the holy grail that spotlight is trying to get to without completely changing HFS
[2006/01/28 15:52:37]	<dsaint> The BFS author, Dominic Giampaolo worked at Apple for a while on their FS. I think he helped add attributes for spotlight
[2006/01/28 15:52:43]	<mgriego> :)
[2006/01/28 15:52:47]	<alexleverington> yeah, i heard that too
[2006/01/28 15:53:23]	<JordanYoung> so correct me if i'm wrong. since ext3 is a journaled FS, does that function the same way as BFS?
[2006/01/28 15:53:33]	<alexleverington> journaled is not the same thing...
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[2006/01/28 15:53:46]	<kevinmar1in> journaled means that changes are tracked
[2006/01/28 15:53:46]	<dsaint> BFS had journaling plus attributes for files.
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[2006/01/28 15:53:54]	<kevinmar1in> so they can be rolled back if needed.
[2006/01/28 15:54:00]	@ ravenz is now known as ravenzachary
[2006/01/28 15:54:22]	<JordanYoung> ahh.
[2006/01/28 15:54:22]	@ kevinmar1in is now known as kevinmarvin_
[2006/01/28 15:54:29]	<mgriego> speeds up filesystem error checking since you only have to run through a transaction log instead of the whole filesystem structure
[2006/01/28 15:54:37]	<alexleverington> ...or, if your power goes out before the transaction is completed, it will roll forward the transaction when it can
[2006/01/28 15:54:48]	<mgriego> you can be assured that no inconsistencies exist if the transaction log shows complete transactions only
[2006/01/28 15:55:44]	<kevinmarvin_> this is more like an OODB
[2006/01/28 15:55:50]	<alexleverington> i came in late, what is the primary topic (or subject) of this presentation?
[2006/01/28 15:56:01]	<kevinmarvin_> Rethinking E-Mail
[2006/01/28 15:56:23]	<cgriego> Oh, not "Rethinking GMail"?
[2006/01/28 15:56:30]	<mgriego> no, its E-Mail
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[2006/01/28 15:57:15]	<cgriego> we should have had a good-handwriting presentation
[2006/01/28 15:57:26]	<JordanYoung> haha
[2006/01/28 15:57:35]	<cgriego> I would've had to have gone too then
[2006/01/28 15:57:41]	<alexleverington> there's nothing new about gmail, it's just a decent implementation of tagging and search w/mail as the store
[2006/01/28 15:57:57]	<JordanYoung> we should have had digital whiteboards for the schedule. ;)
[2006/01/28 15:58:12]	<jakedahn> yeah that would have worked good
[2006/01/28 15:58:16]	@ Quit: mgriego:
[2006/01/28 15:58:18]	<cgriego> I think there's a lot of subtle value in their presentation of the actual email content
[2006/01/28 15:58:41]	<alexleverington> cgriego: aye, it's well implemented
[2006/01/28 15:58:42]	<alexandermuse> Is anyone else confused?
[2006/01/28 15:59:06]	<alexleverington> yeah
[2006/01/28 15:59:08]	<alexandermuse> To some extent it may be my lack of attention, but to some extent I think that my lack of attention might be due to my confusion...
[2006/01/28 15:59:16]	<JordanYoung> alexandermuse: i think the transition from email to advertising was very rough.
[2006/01/28 15:59:35]	<alexandermuse> We need more Q&A time.
[2006/01/28 15:59:40]	<alexandermuse> i.e. dicussion.
[2006/01/28 15:59:41]	<JordanYoung> yes.
[2006/01/28 16:00:10]	<JordanYoung> we should actually be using the right board for wiki Q&A. New question submissions would be created and the best ones get answered.
[2006/01/28 16:00:16]	<alexandermuse> So maybe some brave soul should ask a question like, 'so, what are you talking about?'
[2006/01/28 16:00:22]	<alexandermuse> Why not use this...
[2006/01/28 16:00:33]	<JordanYoung> we just need to make a large posting on IRC.
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[2006/01/28 16:03:28]	<ravenzachary> haha, watching the video from the airport
[2006/01/28 16:03:48]	<alexandermuse> Nice
[2006/01/28 16:04:04]	<alexandermuse> So where is Chris?
[2006/01/28 16:04:27]	<ravenzachary> On the ground, waiting for him to enter the lobby
[2006/01/28 16:04:36]	<jakedahn> ravenzachary: the second you see Chris SLAP HIM and say jake wants his questions ;)
[2006/01/28 16:04:56]	<ravenzachary> Chris here, heading back to BarCampHQ
[2006/01/28 16:05:03]	<jakedahn> SLAP EM!
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[2006/01/28 16:05:55]	<alexleverington> does anyone know of an IRC client that runs on Palm (treo 650)?
[2006/01/28 16:05:56]	@ Quit: kevinmarvin: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
[2006/01/28 16:07:11]	* alexleverington thinking about speaking
[2006/01/28 16:07:45]	<jakedahn> alexleverington: will you go with jordan to chris's flock talk with the camera at 6 ?
[2006/01/28 16:07:48]	<jakedahn> please?
[2006/01/28 16:07:59]	<alexleverington> yes, i can do that
[2006/01/28 16:08:04]	<alexleverington> i will be at the lightninig 4p
[2006/01/28 16:08:06]	<jakedahn> THANKYOU!
[2006/01/28 16:08:09]	* jakedahn bows
[2006/01/28 16:08:10]	<alexleverington> er, here now
[2006/01/28 16:09:01]	<jakedahn> yeah, what is the lighting presentation about?
[2006/01/28 16:10:48]	<cgriego> jakedahn: you editing LighteningTalksAtBarCampDallas?
[2006/01/28 16:11:05]	<jakedahn> i dont thinkn so
[2006/01/28 16:11:42]	<jakedahn> cgriego are you changing it for switching rooms?
[2006/01/28 16:12:23]	<cgriego> no, just setting up a stub page for the Lightening Talks presentation
[2006/01/28 16:12:35]	<jakedahn> ahh
[2006/01/28 16:12:41]	<jakedahn> are they switching rooms
[2006/01/28 16:13:02]	<cgriego> maybe, I think it depends on the popularity of the Asterisk pres. which sounds big so might be a switch
[2006/01/28 16:13:41]	<jakedahn> yeah make sure everyone keeps the camera in there for the 'Flock Talk'
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[2006/01/28 16:17:30]	<jakedahn> hey does anyone know how to rip a .sdp feed?
[2006/01/28 16:17:33]	@ Quit: bingeldac:
[2006/01/28 16:17:47]	<jakedahn> i want to start recording this video feed from here
[2006/01/28 16:17:57]	<cgriego> I think it's being saved to disk and people have already volunteered to edit it
[2006/01/28 16:18:20]	<jakedahn> how are they ripping it/?
[2006/01/28 16:18:30]	<jakedahn> ask for me
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[2006/01/28 16:21:51]	<ramdacII> now i'm at the asterisk training.
[2006/01/28 16:22:00]	<ramdacII> err.
[2006/01/28 16:22:04]	@ ramdacII is now known as JordanYoung-
[2006/01/28 16:22:14]	<JordanYoung-> that's better.
[2006/01/28 16:22:18]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 16:22:24]	<jakedahn> you switch computerS?
[2006/01/28 16:22:33]	<JordanYoung-> brought another laptop with me.
[2006/01/28 16:22:39]	<jakedahn> 2 wow
[2006/01/28 16:22:42]	<JordanYoung-> the powerbook is still in the flock stuff.
[2006/01/28 16:22:43]	<jakedahn> ive never even had one
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[2006/01/28 16:23:07]	<jakedahn> how do yall like flock?
[2006/01/28 16:23:08]	@ Quit: ravenzachary: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
[2006/01/28 16:23:39]	<JordanYoung-> i hope somebody stayed in there. just about everybody flocked to the asterisk training.
[2006/01/28 16:25:06]	<jakedahn> there are a bunch of people in the camera room
[2006/01/28 16:25:10]	<jakedahn> lots of noise!
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[2006/01/28 16:29:56]	<jakedahn> WHOHOO!!! I SEE ME ON THE SCREEN!
[2006/01/28 16:30:16]	<jakedahn> lol the lag is cut down
[2006/01/28 16:30:27]	<jakedahn> 8 secs
[2006/01/28 16:32:09]	<JordanYoung-> nice.
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[2006/01/28 16:47:36]	<jakedahn> anyone alive!?
[2006/01/28 16:47:47]	<JordanYoung> yeah
[2006/01/28 16:49:13]	<jakedahn> whats happenin

[2006/01/28 16:49:30]	@ Quit: Anthony_L: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
[2006/01/28 16:50:44]	<JordanYoung> asterisk convo is over.
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[2006/01/28 16:52:01]	<jakedahn> is ther a convo in the ops room?
[2006/01/28 16:52:10]	<jakedahn> the camera is pointed at irc screen
[2006/01/28 16:52:16]	<jakedahn> so idk whats going on
[2006/01/28 16:52:27]	<JordanYoung> we'll find out shortly.
[2006/01/28 16:52:30]	<bingeldac> nope
[2006/01/28 16:52:37]	<bingeldac> there isn't anything going on
[2006/01/28 16:52:53]	<jakedahn> i thoguht there was something scheduled there
[2006/01/28 16:53:10]	<jakedahn> http://barcamp.org/Schedule
[2006/01/28 16:53:15]	<jakedahn> lighting talks
[2006/01/28 16:53:15]	<bingeldac> there was
[2006/01/28 16:53:22]	<bingeldac> the lightning talk, but it never went down
[2006/01/28 16:53:29]	<jakedahn> ahh
[2006/01/28 16:53:35]	<bingeldac> just people chatting
[2006/01/28 16:54:06]	<jakedahn> its just getting really loud in there
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[2006/01/28 16:54:18]	<jakedahn> erank99 there ya go!
[2006/01/28 16:54:21]	<erank99> thanks
[2006/01/28 16:54:28]	<jakedahn> now look at the video and you'll see your self
[2006/01/28 16:54:39]	<erank99> wooooowwwww
[2006/01/28 16:54:55]	<erank99> fun lag
[2006/01/28 16:55:24]	<erank99> the wiki should be updated to point to #barcampdallas instead of #barcamp
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[2006/01/28 16:56:17]	<jakedahn> CHRIS!!!
[2006/01/28 16:56:21]	<jakedahn> WHATS HAPPENIN!
[2006/01/28 16:56:21]	<factoryjoe> whoa dude
[2006/01/28 16:56:22]	<factoryjoe> sup?
[2006/01/28 16:56:25]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 16:56:28]	<jakedahn> we have video!
[2006/01/28 16:56:33]	<factoryjoe> noice
[2006/01/28 16:56:33]	<jakedahn> yippie
[2006/01/28 16:56:43]	<factoryjoe> url?
[2006/01/28 16:57:19]	<jakedahn> chris: http://barcamp.org
[2006/01/28 16:57:21]	<jakedahn> its on the wiki
[2006/01/28 16:57:27]	<factoryjoe> got it
[2006/01/28 16:57:34]	<factoryjoe> hmm maybe i'll go stand in front of it
[2006/01/28 16:58:15]	<factoryjoe> did i show up?
[2006/01/28 16:58:23]	<jakedahn> go say hi again
[2006/01/28 16:58:25]	<jakedahn> yeah you did
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[2006/01/28 17:00:37]	<blakestar> ?def brianoberkirch
[2006/01/28 17:00:38]	<JordanYoung-> back
[2006/01/28 17:01:05]	<jakedahn> blakestar: there is no jitbot
[2006/01/28 17:01:30]	<factoryjoe> blakestar: coworking.pbwiki.com
[2006/01/28 17:01:47]	@ Quit: jhill:
[2006/01/28 17:01:59]	<JordanYoung-> nada on the screen right now.
[2006/01/28 17:02:00]	@ Quit: bo:
[2006/01/28 17:02:27]	<JordanYoung-> dinner time
[2006/01/28 17:02:35]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 17:02:38]	<jakedahn> turn it back to irc
[2006/01/28 17:02:39]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 17:02:48]	<jakedahn> or put something fun on the projector
[2006/01/28 17:02:52]	<missrogueaway> factoryjoe: stand in front of it again
[2006/01/28 17:03:47]	<factoryjoe> missrogueaway: ok hottie
[2006/01/28 17:04:01]	<jakedahn> turn on the lights!!
[2006/01/28 17:04:08]	<jakedahn> its kinda dark in there!
[2006/01/28 17:04:17]	<missrogueaway> hi you
[2006/01/28 17:04:22]	<Nancy_White> The cam on the IRC made me turn off the feed and come here
[2006/01/28 17:04:28]	<Nancy_White> Hi Tara... are you a camp addict?
[2006/01/28 17:04:39]	<missrogueaway> hi nancy_white yep I am
[2006/01/28 17:04:50]	<Nancy_White> Going to MooseCamp in 2 weeks?
[2006/01/28 17:04:54]	<jakedahn> hell im a camp addict and ive never been to one
[2006/01/28 17:04:55]	<missrogueaway> someone is in the way of the camera!
[2006/01/28 17:05:07]	<jakedahn> got lights?!
[2006/01/28 17:05:14]	<jakedahn> cant see anything
[2006/01/28 17:05:17]	<missrogueaway> it's dark because someone's back is totally in the way
[2006/01/28 17:05:24]	<jakedahn> yes spotlights
[2006/01/28 17:05:28]	<missrogueaway> dude
[2006/01/28 17:05:38]	<missrogueaway> you make a better door than a window
[2006/01/28 17:05:42]	<jakedahn> no its dark when he moved
[2006/01/28 17:06:03]	<jakedahn> hi chris!
[2006/01/28 17:06:05]	<jakedahn> lol
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[2006/01/28 17:07:01]	<TheMikeM> Food's here
[2006/01/28 17:07:49]	@ missrogueaway is now known as missrogue
[2006/01/28 17:08:31]	<missrogue> factoryjoe: this is way cool
[2006/01/28 17:08:45]	<factoryjoe> heh
[2006/01/28 17:08:46]	<factoryjoe> yes
[2006/01/28 17:08:47]	<jakedahn> lol, hes sittin in front of the camera and everything
[2006/01/28 17:08:49]	<factoryjoe> we're getting lights
[2006/01/28 17:08:54]	<missrogue> nice
[2006/01/28 17:09:04]	<jakedahn> factoryjoe: its time for your adress to the international net!
[2006/01/28 17:09:09]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 17:09:11]	<missrogue> this is the way every barcamp should be
[2006/01/28 17:09:19]	<jakedahn> exactly like this
[2006/01/28 17:09:19]	<missrogue> although having cameras in every room
[2006/01/28 17:09:22]	<jakedahn> but with more feeds
[2006/01/28 17:09:25]	<jakedahn> yeah
[2006/01/28 17:09:27]	<missrogue> and you can change to see more sessions
[2006/01/28 17:09:43]	<jakedahn> someone should make a java app for it in the mashpit
[2006/01/28 17:09:45]	<TheMikeM> video feed equip: http://www.pleora.com
[2006/01/28 17:09:46]	<jakedahn> java or ruby
[2006/01/28 17:09:57]	<missrogue> jakedahn: totally
[2006/01/28 17:10:21]	<erank99> i see you
[2006/01/28 17:10:25]	<jakedahn> yeah we get audio
[2006/01/28 17:10:27]	<jakedahn> someone tell him
[2006/01/28 17:10:29]	<missrogue> hey bri!
[2006/01/28 17:10:38]	<missrogue> we totally get audio
[2006/01/28 17:10:44]	<missrogue> oooo there's the light
[2006/01/28 17:10:44]	<erank99> i can hear you too
[2006/01/28 17:10:45]	<missrogue> lol
[2006/01/28 17:10:47]	<missrogue> hi tech
[2006/01/28 17:10:59]	<missrogue> more hi tech lights
[2006/01/28 17:11:09]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 17:11:20]	<TheMikeM> okay, next time, we're having telepresence bots
[2006/01/28 17:11:21]	<missrogue> yeah
[2006/01/28 17:11:23]	<digitalbuddha> nice...a video feed ! :)
[2006/01/28 17:11:27]	<missrogue> totally
[2006/01/28 17:11:28]	<factoryjoe> lights
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[2006/01/28 17:12:03]	<jakedahn> factoryjoe: got questions?
[2006/01/28 17:12:10]	<factoryjoe> gah!
[2006/01/28 17:12:46]	<factoryjoe> hmm
[2006/01/28 17:12:48]	<factoryjoe> food time
[2006/01/28 17:12:49]	<factoryjoe> i'm starved
[2006/01/28 17:13:02]	<missrogue> I'm trying to take a screenshot, but it's not working
[2006/01/28 17:13:05]	<missrogue> :(
[2006/01/28 17:13:31]	<TheMikeM> directx
[2006/01/28 17:13:44]	<TheMikeM> your video is going straight to your vid card
[2006/01/28 17:13:55]	<missrogue> ah
[2006/01/28 17:13:55]	<TheMikeM> can't screenshot that unless your display client supports it
[2006/01/28 17:14:09]	@ Quit: Tony_L_L: "Leaving"
[2006/01/28 17:14:21]	<factoryjoe> TheMikeM: even on a mac?
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[2006/01/28 17:14:24]	<factoryjoe> directx!?
[2006/01/28 17:14:34]	<factoryjoe> wait, we're recording this to a harddrive right?
[2006/01/28 17:14:35]	<TheMikeM> different on a mac, but same concept
[2006/01/28 17:14:44]	<missrogue> I should be able to capture anything in the browser?
[2006/01/28 17:14:46]	<factoryjoe> hmm
[2006/01/28 17:14:48]	<factoryjoe> lemme try
[2006/01/28 17:14:54]	<TheMikeM> that's aqua stuff, etc.
[2006/01/28 17:14:59]	<TheMikeM> er, core graphics?
[2006/01/28 17:15:07]	<TheMikeM> I forgot what they're calling it now
[2006/01/28 17:15:21]	<factoryjoe> uploading now
[2006/01/28 17:15:27]	<missrogue> it worked?
[2006/01/28 17:15:30]	<factoryjoe> yes
[2006/01/28 17:15:40]	<factoryjoe> cmd-shift-4
[2006/01/28 17:15:41]	<missrogue> shift + option + 4?
[2006/01/28 17:15:41]	<factoryjoe> in safari
[2006/01/28 17:15:47]	<factoryjoe> maybe you need the full version of QT?
[2006/01/28 17:15:57]	<TheMikeM> sometimes..
[2006/01/28 17:16:05]	<TheMikeM> qt supports saving stills
[2006/01/28 17:16:32]	<TheMikeM> but it does the same dma transfer stuff to get it to the card on time
[2006/01/28 17:16:57]	<missrogue> well...as long as you got it
[2006/01/28 17:17:00]	<TheMikeM> on older machines if you drag the window fast enough, the video image will lag the player frame
[2006/01/28 17:17:12]	<factoryjoe> http://www.flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/ 92327565/
[2006/01/28 17:17:25]	<missrogue> (maybe it's because I'm in Flock?
[2006/01/28 17:17:44]	<missrogue> switching
[2006/01/28 17:17:49]	<jakedahn> http://flickr.com/photos/jakedahn/923271 37/
[2006/01/28 17:17:55]	<jakedahn> http://flickr.com/photos/jakedahn/923271 36/
[2006/01/28 17:18:10]	<missrogue> nope
[2006/01/28 17:18:34]	<missrogue> thanks jakedahn and factoryjoe
[2006/01/28 17:18:44]	<jakedahn> yep
[2006/01/28 17:19:18]	<jakedahn> ahh are you peoples viewing feed from browser?
[2006/01/28 17:19:22]	<missrogue> ooooo lighter
[2006/01/28 17:19:25]	<jakedahn> woah
[2006/01/28 17:19:27]	<jakedahn> zoomed
[2006/01/28 17:19:32]	<jakedahn> but way lighteer
[2006/01/28 17:19:36]	<missrogue> someone is playing with the white balance? lol
[2006/01/28 17:19:37]	<factoryjoe> missrogue: get my PM
[2006/01/28 17:19:39]	<factoryjoe> ?
[2006/01/28 17:19:44]	<missrogue> PM?
[2006/01/28 17:19:50]	<factoryjoe> yeah, the camera's being played w/
[2006/01/28 17:19:59]	<jakedahn> focus it
[2006/01/28 17:20:04]	<jakedahn> tell the person to focus
[2006/01/28 17:20:05]	<TheMikeM> factoryjoe: pm's only work if you're reg'd with freenode
[2006/01/28 17:20:13]	<factoryjoe> TheMikeM: i am
[2006/01/28 17:20:34]	<jakedahn> tell him to focus it more!
[2006/01/28 17:20:35]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 17:20:42]	<jakedahn> factoryjoe is a bit blurry
[2006/01/28 17:21:20]	@ Quit: JordanYoung: Connection timed out
[2006/01/28 17:21:40]	<jakedahn> lol hes taking a picture of camera man
[2006/01/28 17:21:52]	<jakedahn> no
[2006/01/28 17:21:55]	<jakedahn> its worse now
[2006/01/28 17:21:58]	<erank99> nope
[2006/01/28 17:22:01]	<erank99> still blurry
[2006/01/28 17:22:03]	<jakedahn> no dont leave
[2006/01/28 17:22:05]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 17:22:06]	<erank99> actually worse
[2006/01/28 17:22:10]	<jakedahn> damn now its stuck
[2006/01/28 17:22:15]	<erank99> haha
[2006/01/28 17:22:26]	<factoryjoe> missrogue: skype?
[2006/01/28 17:22:32]	<jakedahn> it just is
[2006/01/28 17:22:35]	<factoryjoe> um
[2006/01/28 17:22:36]	<jakedahn> zoom out
[2006/01/28 17:22:39]	<missrogue> kk
[2006/01/28 17:22:42]	<jakedahn> out a bit
[2006/01/28 17:22:47]	<erank99> you are zooming in and out
[2006/01/28 17:22:49]	<jakedahn> in a tiny bit
[2006/01/28 17:22:51]	<jakedahn> and then focus
[2006/01/28 17:22:54]	<factoryjoe> how's that?
[2006/01/28 17:22:57]	<erank99> blurry
[2006/01/28 17:23:04]	<jakedahn> lol that works
[2006/01/28 17:23:07]	<jakedahn> still blurry
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[2006/01/28 17:23:20]	<jakedahn> hahaha, ghetto tech!
[2006/01/28 17:23:34]	<erank99> blurry

[2006/01/28 17:23:37]	<jakedahn> yeah
[2006/01/28 17:23:42]	<erank99> haha
[2006/01/28 17:23:56]	<erank99> were gonna get this right damnit
[2006/01/28 17:24:00]	<jakedahn> yeah!
[2006/01/28 17:24:07]	<erank99> even if it takes till next barcamp dallas
[2006/01/28 17:24:14]	<jakedahn> lol, i love how i seem soo bossy in this damn irc
[2006/01/28 17:24:20]	<erank99> me too
[2006/01/28 17:24:22]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 17:24:26]	<erank99> yeah stick it on auto
[2006/01/28 17:24:35]	<erank99> ok i'm done now
[2006/01/28 17:24:49]	<factoryjoe> it's on auto
[2006/01/28 17:24:55]	<factoryjoe> so from now on, you're arguing w/ a computer
[2006/01/28 17:24:56]	<factoryjoe> ;)
[2006/01/28 17:25:28]	<factoryjoe> are you guys going to be on for awhile?
[2006/01/28 17:25:34]	<factoryjoe> i do a flock talk in like 40min
[2006/01/28 17:25:44]	<factoryjoe> might be cool if i can move the camera in the other room
[2006/01/28 17:26:09]	<jakedahn> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jakedahn/92 330344/
[2006/01/28 17:26:27]	<jakedahn> factoryjoe: do it in the same room
[2006/01/28 17:26:32]	<jakedahn> i want to see it on video
[2006/01/28 17:26:41]	<factoryjoe> mm
[2006/01/28 17:26:46]	<factoryjoe> well i'll see
[2006/01/28 17:26:51]	<factoryjoe> ok, i'm out
[2006/01/28 17:26:55]	<jakedahn> ok
[2006/01/28 17:27:02]	<factoryjoe> cya
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[2006/01/28 17:34:49]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 17:34:53]	<jakedahn> nice sponsor
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[2006/01/28 17:37:34]	<jakedahn> its the swarm of people!
[2006/01/28 17:37:36]	<jakedahn> AHH!
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[2006/01/28 17:41:47]	<mVaio> Mr. Hammond, the phones are working.
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[2006/01/28 17:44:03]	<jakedahn> hey, is this barcamp going over night till tomorrow?
[2006/01/28 17:44:09]	<jakedahn> ir is it a just tonight thing?
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[2006/01/28 17:45:13]	<jakedahn> cks: is this barcamp going over night till tomorrow?
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[2006/01/28 17:50:18]	<ravenzachary> Next talk in the big room in 10 minutes
[2006/01/28 17:51:30]	<jakedahn> ravenzachary: big room is the OPS room right?
[2006/01/28 17:52:08]	@ Quit: bingeldac: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
[2006/01/28 17:52:12]	<ravenzachary> yes, sorry
[2006/01/28 17:52:25]	<jakedahn> aight
[2006/01/28 17:52:28]	<ravenzachary> 6pm CT - Flock Demo
[2006/01/28 17:52:31]	<jakedahn> is it the Flock talk?
[2006/01/28 17:52:32]	<jakedahn> sweet
[2006/01/28 17:52:39]	<jakedahn> make sure someone turns the camera
[2006/01/28 17:52:40]	<ravenzachary> 6:30pm CT - Open Source Foundation Talk
[2006/01/28 17:52:42]	<ravenzachary> ok
[2006/01/28 17:52:44]	<jakedahn> to the front of the room
[2006/01/28 17:52:49]	<jakedahn> when its goin
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[2006/01/28 17:56:07]	<DaveCopp1> ?def DaveCopps Dave is a bipedal protoplasmic being that still thinks vinyl and 8tracks are kinda neat
[2006/01/28 17:56:56]	<ravenzachary> is video aligned properly?
[2006/01/28 17:57:00]	<ravenzachary> i just moved camera
[2006/01/28 17:57:02]	<erank99> I can see it
[2006/01/28 17:57:03]	<jakedahn> with the irc screen
[2006/01/28 17:57:04]	<ravenzachary> cool
[2006/01/28 17:57:09]	<jakedahn> not presentation
[2006/01/28 17:57:13]	<jakedahn> turn it to the right
[2006/01/28 17:57:15]	<digitalbuddha> looks good here in Berkeley
[2006/01/28 17:57:19]	<jakedahn> no
[2006/01/28 17:57:24]	<jakedahn> turn it to the right
[2006/01/28 17:57:28]	<erank99> is there are presentation coming up?
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[2006/01/28 17:57:33]	<jakedahn> i believe you're facing the wrong scree
[2006/01/28 17:57:34]	<jakedahn> n
[2006/01/28 17:57:42]	<jakedahn> erank99: yep
[2006/01/28 17:57:44]	<jakedahn> flock demo
[2006/01/28 17:57:56]	<ravenzachary> our presenter went missing
[2006/01/28 17:58:06]	<erank99> can we move it to the middle screen please
[2006/01/28 17:58:06]	<ravenzachary> center screen will be demo screen
[2006/01/28 17:58:08]	<digitalbuddha> think he went to get a bite to eat
[2006/01/28 17:58:08]	<ravenzachary> its black now
[2006/01/28 17:58:10]	<ravenzachary> no presenter!
[2006/01/28 17:58:22]	<DaveCopp1> ?def DaveCopps is a bipedal protoplasmic being that still thinks vinyl and 8tracks are kinda neat
[2006/01/28 17:58:24]	<ravenzachary> its on middle screen
[2006/01/28 17:58:24]	<erank99> well improvize raven
[2006/01/28 17:58:29]	<jakedahn> ravenzachary: move it to the center screen
[2006/01/28 17:58:33]	<jakedahn> is it?
[2006/01/28 17:58:35]	<jakedahn> woah
[2006/01/28 17:58:55]	<DaveCopp1> ?def DaveCopp1 is a bipedal protoplasmic being that still thinks vinyl and 8tracks are kinda neat
[2006/01/28 17:59:10]	<jakedahn> DaveCopp1: the jitbot isnt in this room
[2006/01/28 17:59:35]	<DaveCopp1> where is jibot
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[2006/01/28 17:59:43]	<DaveCopp1> in the can?
[2006/01/28 17:59:46]	<jakedahn> in #barcamp
[2006/01/28 18:00:00]	<JordanYoung> the cam should be set back up again
[2006/01/28 18:00:04]	<jakedahn> JordanYoung: can you position the camera correctly?
[2006/01/28 18:00:13]	<JordanYoung> jake: nothing is up yet
[2006/01/28 18:00:16]	<jakedahn> its off by a bit
[2006/01/28 18:00:19]	@ bing_againg is now known as bingeldac
[2006/01/28 18:00:19]	<JordanYoung> the guys are trying to get it set up better.
[2006/01/28 18:00:19]	<jakedahn> it is up right now
[2006/01/28 18:00:23]	<jakedahn> ah
[2006/01/28 18:00:38]	<erank99> it is poionting to the left screen
[2006/01/28 18:00:47]	<JordanYoung> actually we are probably going to have discussion
[2006/01/28 18:00:50]	<jakedahn> point it to the center screen!
[2006/01/28 18:00:51]	<erank99> it needs to point to the center screen please
[2006/01/28 18:00:54]	<erank99> k
[2006/01/28 18:01:03]	<erank99> well, it would be good to see the presenter
[2006/01/28 18:01:07]	<jakedahn> jordanyoung: you should do it, you are a pro
[2006/01/28 18:01:12]	<JordanYoung> jake: haha.
[2006/01/28 18:01:16]	<jakedahn> seriously
[2006/01/28 18:01:19]	<jakedahn> make it better
[2006/01/28 18:01:20]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 18:01:28]	<jakedahn> its on the wrong screen
[2006/01/28 18:01:32]	<JordanYoung> alexleverington is who will be doing it.
[2006/01/28 18:01:43]	<JordanYoung> bbl.. alex needs this comp
[2006/01/28 18:01:43]	<jakedahn> where is he?
[2006/01/28 18:01:54]	<jakedahn> tell him to fix it'
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[2006/01/28 18:02:09]	<alexleverington> heh
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[2006/01/28 18:02:15]	<jakedahn> def? jakedahn
[2006/01/28 18:02:19]	<alexleverington> i'm over here now.
[2006/01/28 18:02:20]	<jakedahn> ?def jakedahn
[2006/01/28 18:02:20]	<jibot> jakedahn is God http://jakedahn.com/god1.jpg and awesome because he just converted another kid to Flock!! and a loser
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[2006/01/28 18:02:26]	<jakedahn> all better ;)
[2006/01/28 18:02:51]	<mgriego> ?
[2006/01/28 18:02:57]	<ravenzachary> schedule change
[2006/01/28 18:03:01]	<ravenzachary> flock pres at 615
[2006/01/28 18:03:04]	<jakedahn> ok
[2006/01/28 18:03:05]	<KevinMarks> afternoon
[2006/01/28 18:03:06]	<ravenzachary> doing a pre talk on something else before
[2006/01/28 18:03:10]	<alexleverington> it's difficult to go from the PC to the mac b/c keyboard layout.
[2006/01/28 18:03:14]	<jakedahn> ravenzachary: i dont think cam is in right palce
[2006/01/28 18:03:19]	@ alexleverington is now known as JordanYoung-
[2006/01/28 18:03:21]	<jakedahn> needs to be on other screen
[2006/01/28 18:03:26]	<ravenzachary> no its on center screen
[2006/01/28 18:03:28]	<ravenzachary> its ok
[2006/01/28 18:03:31]	<cgriego> ?def cgriego
[2006/01/28 18:03:31]	<jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and at BarCamp Dallas
[2006/01/28 18:03:31]	<JordanYoung-> alexleverington is the one on the left side of the screen right now
[2006/01/28 18:03:31]	<ravenzachary> no pres yet
[2006/01/28 18:03:33]	<ravenzachary> no slides up
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[2006/01/28 18:03:43]	<jakedahn> is that weree the other presentations at
[2006/01/28 18:03:45]	<jakedahn> ?
[2006/01/28 18:03:50]	<JordanYoung-> yeah
[2006/01/28 18:03:52]	<JordanYoung-> center screen
[2006/01/28 18:04:06]	<ravenzachary> yup
[2006/01/28 18:04:09]	<jakedahn> someone zoom into it
[2006/01/28 18:04:09]	<ravenzachary> thats where flock will demo
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[2006/01/28 18:04:14]	<jibot> bo is bo and a transfinite puppy
[2006/01/28 18:04:18]	<KevinMarks> there's a webcast?
[2006/01/28 18:04:18]	<ravenzachary> well if i zoom you dont see speaker
[2006/01/28 18:04:22]	<ravenzachary> yup
[2006/01/28 18:04:24]	<DaveCopp1> ?def DaveCopps is a bipedal protoplasmic being that still thinks vinyl and 8tracks are kinda neat
[2006/01/28 18:04:24]	<jibot> DaveCopps is a bipedal protoplasmic being that still thinks vinyl and 8tracks are kinda neat
[2006/01/28 18:04:34]	<KevinMarks> put it in the topic...
[2006/01/28 18:04:37]	<JordanYoung-> we might as well zoom it for the screen
[2006/01/28 18:04:39]	<erank99> look on the wiki for the url KevinMarks
[2006/01/28 18:04:44]	<jakedahn> http://67.19.70.244:8000/barcamp.sdp
[2006/01/28 18:04:55]	<jakedahn> yeah do it like it was before
[2006/01/28 18:05:31]	<digitalbuddha> head is good
[2006/01/28 18:05:33]	<jakedahn> make sure the font size is big
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[2006/01/28 18:05:41]	<jakedahn> i wont be able to read anything
[2006/01/28 18:05:48]	<jakedahn> set it to the way it was earlier
[2006/01/28 18:05:57]	<JordanYoung-> we're getting there.
[2006/01/28 18:06:04]	<jakedahn> perfect!
[2006/01/28 18:06:09]	<jakedahn> out
[2006/01/28 18:06:14]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 18:06:21]	<jakedahn> up a bit
[2006/01/28 18:06:24]	<jakedahn> tiny bit
[2006/01/28 18:06:37]	<ravenzachary> im no longer in charge of the camera :)
[2006/01/28 18:06:41]	<JordanYoung-> sec.
[2006/01/28 18:06:44]	<ravenzachary> I'm an audience member now
[2006/01/28 18:06:47]	<jakedahn> ok
[2006/01/28 18:06:53]	<jakedahn> is jordan in charge?
[2006/01/28 18:06:57]	<jakedahn> hes the webcam pro
[2006/01/28 18:06:58]	<KevinMarks> thats very good looking for 300 kbits
[2006/01/28 18:06:59]	<ravenzachary> Bug alexandermuse :)
[2006/01/28 18:07:05]	<JordanYoung-> jake: nope.. but i can be.
[2006/01/28 18:07:11]	<jakedahn> tell then to jack up the font size
[2006/01/28 18:07:27]	<jakedahn> its too small to read
[2006/01/28 18:07:34]	<jakedahn> so zoom in a bit

[2006/01/28 18:07:40]	<jakedahn> and make font bigger
[2006/01/28 18:07:46]	<jakedahn> yeah you cant need a taskbar
[2006/01/28 18:08:00]	<jakedahn> to the left a tiny bit
[2006/01/28 18:08:04]	<JordanYoung-> haha
[2006/01/28 18:08:05]	<jakedahn> and it would be perfect
[2006/01/28 18:08:06]	<JordanYoung-> so picky.
[2006/01/28 18:08:17]	<jakedahn> i like good video ;)
[2006/01/28 18:08:17]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 18:08:23]	<jakedahn> THERE
[2006/01/28 18:08:28]	<jakedahn> PERFECT
[2006/01/28 18:08:40]	<KevinMarks> is that a DV camear or an isight?
[2006/01/28 18:08:41]	<DaveCopp1> Ooh the anticipation
[2006/01/28 18:08:45]	<jakedahn> good
[2006/01/28 18:08:46]	<JordanYoung-> heh
[2006/01/28 18:08:49]	<JordanYoung-> version control
[2006/01/28 18:08:49]	<jakedahn> right there
[2006/01/28 18:08:50]	<JordanYoung-> yippee!
[2006/01/28 18:08:52]	<jakedahn> sweet
[2006/01/28 18:09:01]	* jakedahn waves back
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[2006/01/28 18:09:10]	<jibot> factoryjoe is Chris Messina, works for Flock, Bar Camp & Rhyzomatic & is working towards open source world domination & factorycityblug (http://factoryjoe.com/blog/) & looks like http://www.flickr.com/photos/dotben/7097 0770/
[2006/01/28 18:09:36]	@ KevinMarks set topic "Bathrooms are down the (long) hall, on the right || http://67.19.70.244:8000/barcamp.sdp"
[2006/01/28 18:09:44]	<JordanYoung-> haha
[2006/01/28 18:09:45]	<factoryjoe> KevinMarks!
[2006/01/28 18:09:45]	<ravenzachary> So, Trac talk first, then Flock, then supporting open source, following by a roundtable
[2006/01/28 18:09:46]	<factoryjoe> hey man
[2006/01/28 18:09:48]	<JordanYoung-> alex is being funny.
[2006/01/28 18:10:02]	<jakedahn> welcome back chris
[2006/01/28 18:10:08]	<factoryjoe> sanks
[2006/01/28 18:10:12]	<erank99> I do
[2006/01/28 18:10:22]	<factoryjoe> dude, we so should have been using trac for flock
[2006/01/28 18:10:24]	<factoryjoe> gah
[2006/01/28 18:10:35]	<factoryjoe> kind of like getting married
[2006/01/28 18:10:49]	<bingeldac> Trac is the shit.
[2006/01/28 18:10:55]	<bingeldac> Even though its python
[2006/01/28 18:10:59]	<mgriego> marriage isn't so easy to revert
[2006/01/28 18:11:09]	<jakedahn> factoryjoe: as opposed to HG?
[2006/01/28 18:11:20]	<JordanYoung-> bah. python isn't THAT bad. Look at how BitTorrent has changed out lives. :)
[2006/01/28 18:11:37]	<factoryjoe> jakedahn: correct
[2006/01/28 18:11:38]	<jakedahn> heh, dont switch now ! im just getting used to hg
[2006/01/28 18:11:43]	<bingeldac> I was just inciting geek violence
[2006/01/28 18:11:44]	<KevinMarks> damning python with faint praise time?
[2006/01/28 18:11:46]	<factoryjoe> yeah, but our developers aren't
[2006/01/28 18:11:51]	<jakedahn> i have my build environment setup and everything
[2006/01/28 18:12:07]	<factoryjoe> that's because you're a genius
[2006/01/28 18:12:16]	<JordanYoung-> haha. Message: dammit janet.
[2006/01/28 18:12:29]	<jakedahn> heh, genius
[2006/01/28 18:12:31]	<factoryjoe> i like the floaty box over the content
[2006/01/28 18:12:41]	<jakedahn> but i suck at design ;)
[2006/01/28 18:12:44]	<jakedahn> yeah that is cool
[2006/01/28 18:13:03]	<factoryjoe> omg, that's *so* much better than asszilla
[2006/01/28 18:13:11]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 18:13:35]	<jakedahn> factoryjoe: is BarCampDallas only for today or is it running tomorrow too>?
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[2006/01/28 18:13:41]	<bingeldac> is there an alternative to Trac for working with SVN ?
[2006/01/28 18:13:41]	<JordanYoung-> today.
[2006/01/28 18:13:43]	<factoryjoe> we might do a mashpit tomorrow
[2006/01/28 18:13:48]	<mgriego> Did Simple Ticket support change tracking?
[2006/01/28 18:13:48]	<ravenz> changing IRC clients...
[2006/01/28 18:13:48]	<jakedahn> ahh
[2006/01/28 18:13:57]	@ Quit: ravenzachary: "Quit"
[2006/01/28 18:14:02]	<therealadam> collaboa is trying to be a Trac sans-wiki
[2006/01/28 18:14:05]	<jakedahn> bring in the camera to the mashpit
[2006/01/28 18:14:05]	@ ravenz is now known as ravenzachary
[2006/01/28 18:14:10]	<ravenzachary> MUCH better than IRCLE
[2006/01/28 18:14:15]	<ravenzachary> (Colloquy)
[2006/01/28 18:14:15]	<jakedahn> i want to interact ;)
[2006/01/28 18:14:28]	<jakedahn> ?def jakedahn
[2006/01/28 18:14:28]	<jibot> jakedahn is God http://jakedahn.com/god1.jpg and awesome because he just converted another kid to Flock!! and a loser
[2006/01/28 18:14:31]	<factoryjoe> ravenzachary: of course
[2006/01/28 18:14:38]	<therealadam> collaboa dudes
[2006/01/28 18:14:42]	<JordanYoung-> alex doesn't believe there is an alternative to trac.
[2006/01/28 18:14:47]	<ravenzachary> Ircle kept booting me after 30 minutes
[2006/01/28 18:15:18]	<ravenzachary> Thanks to whurley for the Colloquy advice
[2006/01/28 18:15:35]	<jakedahn> Colloquy is the way to go ;)
[2006/01/28 18:15:39]	<dsaint_> What about Jira? http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/
[2006/01/28 18:15:43]	<ravenzachary> $
[2006/01/28 18:15:51]	<therealadam> collaboa: http://collaboa.org/
[2006/01/28 18:15:52]	<alexandermuse> Alex is like 22
[2006/01/28 18:15:52]	<ravenzachary> Flock time
[2006/01/28 18:15:55]	<mgriego> non-profits can use Jira for free
[2006/01/28 18:15:56]	<alexandermuse> So...
[2006/01/28 18:15:56]	<ravenzachary> Alex is not 22
[2006/01/28 18:15:57]	<jakedahn> gl chris
[2006/01/28 18:16:03]	<JordanYoung-> haha
[2006/01/28 18:16:19]	<JordanYoung-> alex is 24.
[2006/01/28 18:16:23]	<mgriego> and Jira integrates with Confluence for the wiki piece
[2006/01/28 18:16:24]	<ravenzachary> Muse?!
[2006/01/28 18:16:26]	@ JordanYoung- is now known as alexleverington
[2006/01/28 18:16:29]	<alexleverington> no... leverington
[2006/01/28 18:16:31]	<ravenzachary> Ok
[2006/01/28 18:16:33]	<alexleverington> presentation dude.
[2006/01/28 18:16:54]	<JordanYoung> okay.
[2006/01/28 18:16:55]	<JordanYoung> i'm back here.
[2006/01/28 18:17:02]	<alexleverington> 24
[2006/01/28 18:17:03]	<JordanYoung> and he's back on his powerbook.
[2006/01/28 18:17:04]	<alexleverington> close to 22
[2006/01/28 18:17:08]	<alexandermuse> :)
[2006/01/28 18:17:13]	<jakedahn> hey
[2006/01/28 18:17:15]	<jakedahn> i see me
[2006/01/28 18:17:25]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 18:17:25]	<alexleverington> not very good at these things but i'll never be if i just sit
[2006/01/28 18:17:25]	<jakedahn> cool
[2006/01/28 18:17:30]	<JordanYoung> wtf, mate?
[2006/01/28 18:17:36]	<jakedahn> chris how bout those questions?!
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[2006/01/28 18:17:47]	<KevinMarks> great, now I cna see the lag in the webcast directly
[2006/01/28 18:17:47]	<JordanYoung> ohhh.. i see.
[2006/01/28 18:17:53]	<alexandermuse> So, here is the thing. My overseas guys want me to show off the Big in Japan tools they have up, but there is no presentation time left. Thoughts?
[2006/01/28 18:17:58]	<video-guy> what client is that
[2006/01/28 18:18:03]	<KevinMarks> 12 seconds
[2006/01/28 18:18:09]	<factoryjoe> colloquy
[2006/01/28 18:18:10]	<alexleverington> do it
[2006/01/28 18:19:03]	<ravenzachary> video/audio ok?
[2006/01/28 18:19:17]	<mgriego> what the hell *are* you doing?
[2006/01/28 18:19:31]	<alexleverington> sorry you can't see the people, but i think the camera would need to be pinting from the top down to do so
[2006/01/28 18:19:34]	<jakedahn> http://tinderbox.flock.com/builds
[2006/01/28 18:19:37]	<alexleverington> pinting = pointing
[2006/01/28 18:19:42]	<jakedahn> that is the link
[2006/01/28 18:19:49]	<jakedahn> dont zoom!
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[2006/01/28 18:21:01]	<jakedahn> there ya go
[2006/01/28 18:21:43]	<alexleverington> hrm, there needs to be something like Growl for video presentations
[2006/01/28 18:21:48]	<alexleverington> (client-side)
[2006/01/28 18:22:01]	<jakedahn> alex: yeah that would be cool
[2006/01/28 18:22:31]	<JordanYoung> _ ___
[2006/01/28 18:22:31]	<JordanYoung> |_)o _ | ._ | _.._ _.._ |
[2006/01/28 18:22:31]	<JordanYoung> |_)|(_| _|_| | \_|(_||_)(_|| |o
[2006/01/28 18:22:32]	<JordanYoung> _| |
[2006/01/28 18:22:35]	<alexleverington> has anyone gotten their bluetooth phone to popup callerid on osx?
[2006/01/28 18:22:53]	<jakedahn> i dont even have a phone
[2006/01/28 18:23:54]	<alexleverington> he is sync'ing his flock boomarks with his delicio.us account
[2006/01/28 18:24:13]	<erank99> that is cool
[2006/01/28 18:24:17]	<alexleverington> er, del.icio.us
[2006/01/28 18:25:01]	<cgriego> why must all Mozilla derivatives look sexier on Windows
[2006/01/28 18:25:13]	<jakedahn> lol, why must it all happen on demos!?
[2006/01/28 18:25:23]	<cks> i totally didn't get flock until i tried to blog + post to flickr + use irc + watch a presentation all at once, all day long
[2006/01/28 18:25:25]	<jakedahn> it never fails on me
[2006/01/28 18:25:33]	<erank99> ahh man super blurry
[2006/01/28 18:25:42]	<jakedahn> whats with camera?!?!?!?
[2006/01/28 18:25:45]	<jakedahn> fix it!!
[2006/01/28 18:25:45]	<JordanYoung> fixing cam.
[2006/01/28 18:25:49]	<video-guy> what happened?
[2006/01/28 18:25:50]	<digitalbuddha> where are my glasses
[2006/01/28 18:25:51]	<JordanYoung> i think it went into demo mode again
[2006/01/28 18:25:56]	<erank99> haha
[2006/01/28 18:26:02]	<jakedahn> zoom in a bit
[2006/01/28 18:26:02]	<KevinMarks> focus
[2006/01/28 18:26:06]	<erank99> thanks
[2006/01/28 18:26:08]	<erank99> that is good
[2006/01/28 18:26:10]	<digitalbuddha> ty
[2006/01/28 18:26:18]	<jakedahn> out
[2006/01/28 18:26:20]	<jakedahn> zoom out
[2006/01/28 18:26:31]	<jakedahn> in a tiny bit
[2006/01/28 18:26:45]	<KevinMarks> camear diection with a 12 second lag is not so good
[2006/01/28 18:26:52]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 18:26:55]	<JordanYoung> hehe
[2006/01/28 18:26:58]	<JordanYoung> we have a screen on the cam.
[2006/01/28 18:27:00]	<cks> don't bloglines and the rest help prevent the "everybody's personal rss reader is pinging my rss feed my bandwidth bill was $30k" problem
[2006/01/28 18:27:02]	<digitalbuddha> would be nice to have direct presentation out to stream...
[2006/01/28 18:27:04]	<alexleverington> alexandermuse: there are 11 people on the video feed
[2006/01/28 18:27:04]	<jakedahn> zoom out
[2006/01/28 18:27:05]	<JordanYoung> so they are looking at that as well.
[2006/01/28 18:27:19]	<KevinMarks> digitalbuddha: wouldn't be that hard
[2006/01/28 18:27:20]	<JordanYoung> we have IRC up on one of the projectors to help us get the cam focused.
[2006/01/28 18:27:34]	<KevinMarks> I'm sure I write a vdig that did that as sample code once
[2006/01/28 18:27:49]	<jakedahn> ok can you zoom in like TINY bit
[2006/01/28 18:27:51]	<jakedahn> just tiny
[2006/01/28 18:28:11]	<KevinMarks> is that a DV cam?
[2006/01/28 18:28:17]	<JordanYoung> yeah
[2006/01/28 18:29:30]	<JordanYoung> getting the zoom and focus redone
[2006/01/28 18:30:13]	<JordanYoung> that's as good as we're going to get.
[2006/01/28 18:30:16]	<alexleverington> cks: also keep in mind all the social marketing research sites like bloglines can do
[2006/01/28 18:30:22]	<therealadam> wow, Flock is really pushing the UI forward
[2006/01/28 18:30:31]	<alexleverington> also likely why google has their one rss reader
[2006/01/28 18:30:44]	<danakin> Shelf, "pocket", it's all the same
[2006/01/28 18:31:03]	<alexleverington> jakedahn: better?
[2006/01/28 18:31:08]	<alexleverington> KevinMarks: it's DV
[2006/01/28 18:31:10]	<jakedahn> im suprised he managed to break the shelf
[2006/01/28 18:31:14]	<ravenzachary> Love that shelf copy
[2006/01/28 18:31:16]	<ravenzachary> and paste
[2006/01/28 18:31:18]	<jakedahn> alex: its a little blury
[2006/01/28 18:31:24]	<jakedahn> but it is zoomed perfectly
[2006/01/28 18:31:37]	<alexandermuse> the projector is not perfectly in focus either.
[2006/01/28 18:31:48]	<jakedahn> ah
[2006/01/28 18:32:01]	<alexleverington> it's hard to focus because the text is so small and there isn't a monitor (only the little LCD screen)
[2006/01/28 18:32:11]	<jakedahn> yaeh
[2006/01/28 18:32:11]	<alexleverington> and a 12sec encoding delay for the feed :)
[2006/01/28 18:32:18]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 18:32:22]	<ravenzachary> We have to remove the swearing - hence the delay
[2006/01/28 18:32:37]	<jeremykl1indl> The 2 inch lcd is a beatdown,,,
[2006/01/28 18:32:40]	<KevinMarks> the delay is mostly on the client end
[2006/01/28 18:32:44]	<ravenzachary> :)
[2006/01/28 18:32:44]	<video-guy> try using the manual focus
[2006/01/28 18:32:59]	<alexleverington> video-guy: we are...text that is being focused is really small
[2006/01/28 18:33:06]	<alexleverington> looks like fleas on the lcd
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[2006/01/28 18:33:24]	<KevinMarks> getting that out of DV at 300kbit is pretty impressive
[2006/01/28 18:33:26]	<jeremykl1indl> I flip it to manual and the autofocus goes crazy
[2006/01/28 18:33:34]	<alexleverington> KevinMarks: mpeg4 :D
[2006/01/28 18:33:48]	<KevinMarks> h264, yes, well done raj
[2006/01/28 18:34:11]	<jeremykl1indl> everytime the browser loads a new page it wigs out.. :)

[2006/01/28 18:34:13]	<alexleverington> of course, you have to have 700-800mhz or or hoses your machine
[2006/01/28 18:34:33]	<alexleverington> s/or or/or it/
[2006/01/28 18:35:36]	<jakedahn> http://www.flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/ <--- go there if he uploads
[2006/01/28 18:35:39]	<jakedahn> its magic ;)
[2006/01/28 18:36:01]	<alexleverington> that's as good as it's going to get w/the compression
[2006/01/28 18:36:23]	<jakedahn> one of the photos is already uploaded at http://www.flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/
[2006/01/28 18:37:03]	<blakestar> flicker upload has come along way
[2006/01/28 18:37:05]	<alexleverington> this video will be available for download after I edit out all of the intermissions
[2006/01/28 18:37:17]	<ravenzachary> excellent
[2006/01/28 18:37:27]	<KevinMarks> alex - talk to me about syncing the chat to it
[2006/01/28 18:37:32]	@ Quit: nik: Connection timed out
[2006/01/28 18:37:36]	@ jeremykl1indl is now known as jeremyk
[2006/01/28 18:37:42]	<alexleverington> KevinMarks: wow, are you serious?
[2006/01/28 18:37:43]	<jakedahn> alex: sweet
[2006/01/28 18:37:50]	<jakedahn> ill mirror it if its small enough
[2006/01/28 18:37:59]	<KevinMarks> yes, done that before
[2006/01/28 18:38:15]	<KevinMarks> save a chatlog with second time resolution
[2006/01/28 18:38:32]	<JordanYoung> _
[2006/01/28 18:38:32]	<JordanYoung> _____ _ _______ ______ (_)
[2006/01/28 18:38:32]	<JordanYoung> (_____) (_) (_______) _ (______) _ (_)
[2006/01/28 18:38:32]	<JordanYoung> (_)__(_) _ ____ (_) (_)__ (_) ____ ____ ____ (_)__ (_)
[2006/01/28 18:38:32]	<JordanYoung> (_____) (_) (____) (_) (____) _ (_) (____)(____) (____)(____) (_)
[2006/01/28 18:38:32]	<JordanYoung> (_)__(_)(_)( )_(_) __(_)__ (_) (_) ( )__(_)( )_( )(_)_(_)( )_( )(_) (_) _
[2006/01/28 18:38:35]	<JordanYoung> (_____) (_) (____) (_______)(_) (_) (____) (__)_)(____) (__)_)(_) (_)(_)
[2006/01/28 18:38:36]	<JordanYoung> (_)_(_) (_)
[2006/01/28 18:38:39]	<JordanYoung> (___) (_)
[2006/01/28 18:38:42]	<alexleverington> jakedahn: we'll be okay, thanks though...I think it'll be about 600megs (it's about 1.4gb right now)
[2006/01/28 18:38:43]	<jeremyk> I have most of the audio as quicktime .mov's on my firewire drive
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[2006/01/28 18:38:50]	<jakedahn> ahh
[2006/01/28 18:38:56]	@ jesse_132 is now known as jesse_flock
[2006/01/28 18:38:58]	<jakedahn> hey jesse
[2006/01/28 18:39:02]	<cks> quotes page at http://barcamp.org/BarCampDallasQuotes
[2006/01/28 18:39:08]	<cks> please embrace and extend
[2006/01/28 18:39:09]	<ravenzachary> SMACK!
[2006/01/28 18:39:26]	<jakedahn> here we go..
[2006/01/28 18:39:34]	<factoryjoe> jesse_flock: how's the minimapper?
[2006/01/28 18:39:39]	<jesse_flock> works
[2006/01/28 18:39:40]	<jesse_flock> ;)
[2006/01/28 18:39:41]	<jakedahn> it works fine!
[2006/01/28 18:39:51]	<jesse_flock> no
[2006/01/28 18:39:54]	<jesse_flock> drag an address
[2006/01/28 18:39:55]	<jesse_flock> not a link
[2006/01/28 18:40:13]	<jakedahn> tell chris to go to craigs list
[2006/01/28 18:40:15]	<jakedahn> for something
[2006/01/28 18:40:37]	<jakedahn> heh
[2006/01/28 18:40:48]	<jesse_flock> haha
[2006/01/28 18:40:51]	<jesse_flock> craigslist
[2006/01/28 18:40:51]	<jakedahn> craigs list
[2006/01/28 18:40:53]	<jakedahn> !!
[2006/01/28 18:40:55]	<jesse_flock> drag yahoo/gmail
[2006/01/28 18:40:58]	<jesse_flock> google links
[2006/01/28 18:41:06]	<ravenzachary> Go to www.peptobismol.com
[2006/01/28 18:41:19]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 18:41:34]	<jakedahn> snitch n bitch ;)
[2006/01/28 18:41:46]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 18:41:55]	<jesse_flock> http://www.craigslist.org/pen/apa/128950 920.html
[2006/01/28 18:41:56]	<missrogueaway> this is bullshit
[2006/01/28 18:41:58]	<missrogueaway> ;)
[2006/01/28 18:42:03]	<jesse_flock> go to http://www.craigslist.org/pen/apa/128950 920.html
[2006/01/28 18:42:10]	<jesse_flock> and you can drag the yahoo or google map link to it
[2006/01/28 18:42:19]	<jesse_flock> chris http://www.craigslist.org/pen/apa/128950 920.html
[2006/01/28 18:42:21]	<jakedahn> factoryjoe: listen to jesse
[2006/01/28 18:42:23]	<missrogueaway> (darn...he dropped the backchannel)
[2006/01/28 18:42:23]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 18:42:26]	<cgriego> peptobismol.com really sells their product
[2006/01/28 18:42:26]	<jesse_flock> factoryjoe: http://www.craigslist.org/pen/apa/128950 920.html
[2006/01/28 18:42:31]	<therealadam> doesn't goatse.cx have some addresses on it? ;)
[2006/01/28 18:42:35]	<jesse_flock> no ... not the URL
[2006/01/28 18:42:38]	<ravenzachary> NO!
[2006/01/28 18:42:39]	<jesse_flock> the actual yaho/google links
[2006/01/28 18:42:46]	<jakedahn> damn we have to train in chris!
[2006/01/28 18:42:49]	<factoryjoe> damn
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[2006/01/28 18:42:53]	<factoryjoe> shuddup
[2006/01/28 18:42:54]	<factoryjoe> ok ok
[2006/01/28 18:42:56]	<jesse_flock> haha
[2006/01/28 18:42:57]	<davidparmet> yo
[2006/01/28 18:42:58]	<JordanYoung> therealadam: that has been shut down for a long time.
[2006/01/28 18:42:58]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 18:42:59]	<brianoberkirch> parmet
[2006/01/28 18:43:00]	<brianoberkirch> yo
[2006/01/28 18:43:02]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 18:43:04]	<alexleverington> i love the whole talking in irc instead of saying something on the mic
[2006/01/28 18:43:07]	<davidparmet> the oberkirch!!!
[2006/01/28 18:43:12]	<davidparmet> the joe!
[2006/01/28 18:43:14]	<therealadam> JordanYoung: its the thought that counts
[2006/01/28 18:43:14]	<brianoberkirch> wasabi
[2006/01/28 18:43:22]	<davidparmet> hows da vino?
[2006/01/28 18:43:24]	<brianoberkirch> minimapping, not so much
[2006/01/28 18:43:30]	<JordanYoung> all your base are belong to us!
[2006/01/28 18:43:36]	<brianoberkirch> We are chilling it now, dave
[2006/01/28 18:43:42]	<davidparmet> mmmmmmm
[2006/01/28 18:43:49]	<davidparmet> let the shiraz breath for a bit
[2006/01/28 18:43:53]	<jakedahn> cool
[2006/01/28 18:43:55]	<jakedahn> cool
[2006/01/28 18:44:16]	<ravenzachary> We're actually on schedule
[2006/01/28 18:44:19]	<brianoberkirch> http://flickr.com/photos/blake4tx/922711 35/
[2006/01/28 18:44:39]	<cgriego> mmm, spotlight for the web
[2006/01/28 18:44:46]	<therealadam> very hotness
[2006/01/28 18:44:59]	<ravenzachary> Hey - no one did a microformats talk today, after all.
[2006/01/28 18:45:16]	* therealadam mentioned microformats :)
[2006/01/28 18:45:23]	<KevinMarks> i coudl do one in irc ;)
[2006/01/28 18:45:36]	<jakedahn> i dont get the whole microformat idea
[2006/01/28 18:45:44]	<jakedahn> someone explain after presentation
[2006/01/28 18:45:49]	<ravenzachary> <ok>ok</ok>
[2006/01/28 18:45:54]	<KevinMarks> the idea is adding menaing to html
[2006/01/28 18:45:56]	<davidparmet> beauty
[2006/01/28 18:46:05]	<davidparmet> bbl
[2006/01/28 18:46:06]	@ Quit: davidparmet:
[2006/01/28 18:46:13]	<KevinMarks> instead of making up yet anotehr xml schema
[2006/01/28 18:46:22]	<alexleverington> yaxs
[2006/01/28 18:46:30]	<alexleverington> sounds like a good project acronym
[2006/01/28 18:46:50]	<ravenzachary> can you guys hear questions over video?
[2006/01/28 18:46:55]	<ravenzachary> does chris need to repeat them?
[2006/01/28 18:47:10]	<KevinMarks> that Q was easier to hear than chris
[2006/01/28 18:47:15]	<ravenzachary> closer to camera
[2006/01/28 18:47:18]	<alexleverington> "what are you going to do about security when allowing user submitted content" from Jeremy Dunck (spelling?)
[2006/01/28 18:47:25]	<jesse_flock> was that Jeremy???
[2006/01/28 18:47:37]	<ravenzachary> GreaseMonkey guy asked it
[2006/01/28 18:47:37]	<jakedahn> jesse: yep
[2006/01/28 18:47:38]	<alexleverington> ...havinig to do with javascript being able to 0wn your user's session
[2006/01/28 18:47:45]	<JordanYoung> i thought XML was supposed to make HTML more simple... but it hasn't!
[2006/01/28 18:47:46]	<JordanYoung> heh
[2006/01/28 18:47:48]	<jdunck> jesse_flock: yes.. i prefaced the question with "do you want hard questions?" ;-)
[2006/01/28 18:47:49]	<alexleverington> like the myspace virus
[2006/01/28 18:47:52]	<JordanYoung> it's sooooo complex now!
[2006/01/28 18:47:52]	<jesse_flock> jdunck: haha
[2006/01/28 18:48:13]	<jesse_flock> jdunck: yah, we've been careful to not allow external scritps to crawl out
[2006/01/28 18:48:14]	<jdunck> answer was basically "i don't know" :-P
[2006/01/28 18:48:29]	<jesse_flock> jdunck: chris is the ideas/design man ...
[2006/01/28 18:48:29]	<jdunck> jesse_flock: it's a hard problem
[2006/01/28 18:48:32]	<jakedahn> jesse knows ;)
[2006/01/28 18:48:39]	<jesse_flock> jakedahn: jdunck knows more
[2006/01/28 18:48:39]	<alexleverington> we need javascript to have a security model for the objects
[2006/01/28 18:48:42]	<rthrash> how do you add more blog resources?
[2006/01/28 18:48:44]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 18:48:44]	<missrogueaway> chris is the 'visionary'
[2006/01/28 18:48:45]	<jakedahn> yeah
[2006/01/28 18:48:50]	<KevinMarks> Tim Bray says 'stop making up XML languages'
[2006/01/28 18:48:53]	<jakedahn> chris is clueless ;)
[2006/01/28 18:48:56]	<ravenzachary> Are you still away? :P
[2006/01/28 18:48:58]	<jdunck> ouch!
[2006/01/28 18:48:59]	<jesse_flock> jakedahn: no ...
[2006/01/28 18:49:04]	<rthrash> IOW, how do you add a new source to publish another blog location
[2006/01/28 18:49:06]	<jdunck> doesn't seem clueless ;-)
[2006/01/28 18:49:06]	<jakedahn> lol im just kidding
[2006/01/28 18:49:08]	<jesse_flock> jakedahn: chris doesn't have to know how we code
[2006/01/28 18:49:11]	<missrogueaway> ravenzachary kinda
[2006/01/28 18:49:24]	<jesse_flock> jakedahn: chris only has to think about how to users use the product
[2006/01/28 18:49:26]	<missrogueaway> I'm cleaning my house with this in the background
[2006/01/28 18:49:28]	<jdunck> jesse_flock: have u slept? heh
[2006/01/28 18:49:30]	<alexleverington> this is why the irc is up on the video too :)
[2006/01/28 18:49:31]	<ravenzachary> ok
[2006/01/28 18:49:31]	<jakedahn> yeah, hes good at that
[2006/01/28 18:49:36]	<jesse_flock> jdunck: last night ... 12 hrs!
[2006/01/28 18:49:37]	<alexleverington> s/video/projector/
[2006/01/28 18:49:47]	<jdunck> heh. i got 3.5 last night
[2006/01/28 18:50:10]	<jesse_flock> rthrash: right now we only allow 1 blog source at a time
[2006/01/28 18:50:23]	<jesse_flock> rthrash: no... sorry, we allow multiples
[2006/01/28 18:50:36]	<jesse_flock> rthrash: you can choose which one you want to use by the drop down on the blog editor
[2006/01/28 18:50:37]	<rthrash> jesse_flock: how would I add publishing to http://modxcms.com
[2006/01/28 18:50:42]	<rthrash> which runs MODx cms
[2006/01/28 18:51:01]	<ravenzachary> Question about RSS aggregation - far away from camera....
[2006/01/28 18:51:21]	<jesse_flock> rthrash: right now if you support atom api or ... it works... for instance typo (ruby on rails blog) isn't supported directly, but since it can talk atom we can use it out of the box
[2006/01/28 18:51:22]	<ravenzachary> Can Flock help auto update RSS feed automatically on a web page?
[2006/01/28 18:51:25]	<ravenzachary> the question
[2006/01/28 18:52:13]	<rthrash> jesse_flock: can you shoot me some docs on how to work with that?
[2006/01/28 18:52:43]	<rthrash> ryan@vertexworks.com
[2006/01/28 18:52:45]	<therealadam> rthrash: I can help you with Atom if you like
[2006/01/28 18:52:50]	<rthrash> por favor
[2006/01/28 18:53:02]	<rthrash> any help would be appreciated...
[2006/01/28 18:53:03]	<ravenzachary> Question about who Flock is trying to attract
[2006/01/28 18:53:13]	<rthrash> we'd have to build the Atom part, but should not be a big problem
[2006/01/28 18:53:26]	<jakedahn> ewww myspace
[2006/01/28 18:53:28]	<jakedahn> yuck
[2006/01/28 18:53:34]	<danakin> your grandma
[2006/01/28 18:54:15]	<ravenzachary> He said the S word!
[2006/01/28 18:54:26]	<danakin> gah!
[2006/01/28 18:54:30]	@ Quit: digitalbuddha:
[2006/01/28 18:54:36]	<jakedahn> S word?
[2006/01/28 18:54:42]	<ravenzachary> "synergy"
[2006/01/28 18:54:42]	<mgriego> SYNERGY!
[2006/01/28 18:54:42]	<danakin> synergy
[2006/01/28 18:54:46]	<jakedahn> oh
[2006/01/28 18:54:51]	<jakedahn> whats bad about that?
[2006/01/28 18:55:00]	<mgriego> almost as expensive of a word as convergence
[2006/01/28 18:55:24]	<cgriego> so I have to ask, did we achieve 'geek diversity' :)
[2006/01/28 18:55:31]	<ravenzachary> No one is playing hype term bingo?
[2006/01/28 18:55:48]	<bingeldac> cgriego: sure. I saw 3 or 4 people using windows
[2006/01/28 18:55:55]	<therealadam> ravenzachary: I left my hype highlighter at home
[2006/01/28 18:55:56]	<jdunck> this is why flock exists: http://www.sifry.com/alerts/Slide0002-1- tm.png
[2006/01/28 18:56:11]	<jdunck> aunt tillie doesn't want to deal with extensions
[2006/01/28 18:56:26]	<ravenzachary> jdunck: agreed.
[2006/01/28 18:57:24]	<danakin> i dont think people really "get" extensions
[2006/01/28 18:57:40]	<jakedahn> yeah
[2006/01/28 18:57:43]	<jakedahn> for the most par
[2006/01/28 18:57:44]	<jakedahn> t
[2006/01/28 18:57:50]	<danakin> there are people here that want to do something, like check GMail, but dont want to download the extension
[2006/01/28 18:58:56]	<jesse_flock> you cannot plug in right now but ... eventually
[2006/01/28 18:59:26]	<bingeldac> jesse_flock: is this all done with xul?
[2006/01/28 18:59:26]	<mgriego> expose it

[2006/01/28 18:59:29]	<jesse_flock> factoryjoe: that is the plan but it isn't implimented yet
[2006/01/28 18:59:46]	<jesse_flock> bingeldac: yeah... some html too
[2006/01/28 18:59:55]	<jesse_flock> mgriego: only so many hours :(
[2006/01/28 19:00:01]	<alexleverington> imo, extensions are what make a lot of projects grow instead of just changing
[2006/01/28 19:00:45]	<alexleverington> at least for open source, users typically don't want to change the base code (in whatever language) b/c the project has control over it, whereas api extensions will not really change as much
[2006/01/28 19:01:16]	<cks> what's up next on the schedule for the main room?
[2006/01/28 19:01:22]	<alexleverington> open source
[2006/01/28 19:01:31]	<ravenzachary> supporting open source projects
[2006/01/28 19:01:33]	<jakedahn> http://barcamp.org/Schedule
[2006/01/28 19:01:39]	<alexleverington> and why it's a "Good Thing" (tm)
[2006/01/28 19:01:41]	<ravenzachary> Talk about a new initiative we're working on
[2006/01/28 19:01:51]	<cks> ahh, raven and chris (again), so he gets to cut into time on his own talk :-)
[2006/01/28 19:01:57]	<ravenzachary> heh
[2006/01/28 19:02:45]	<rthrash> therealadam: would appreciate the Atom pointers (back on Flock)
[2006/01/28 19:02:53]	<jdunck> jesse_flock: hey, chris just called you "really smart"
[2006/01/28 19:02:58]	<jakedahn> hahaha i was mentioned
[2006/01/28 19:03:07]	<jesse_flock> jdunck: I've got him fooled ;)
[2006/01/28 19:03:15]	<jdunck> "PR grows faster than the quality of your code. Result: everybody checks out your code, and it's not good yet. These people will be permanently convinced that your code is simple and inadequate, even if you improve it drastically later. I call this the Marimba phenomenon . Or, you get PR before there's a product people can buy, then when the product really comes out the news outlets don't want to do the story again. We'll call this the Segway phenomeno
[2006/01/28 19:03:19]	<therealadam> rthrash: want to talk after the presentations?
[2006/01/28 19:03:29]	<therealadam> or do you just want a couple quick links?
[2006/01/28 19:03:38]	<alexleverington> i'm logging the irc convos
[2006/01/28 19:03:43]	<jdunck> jesse_flock: not a slam.. chris is sort-of apologizing for first release right now...
[2006/01/28 19:04:21]	<rthrash> chat after presentation is cool
[2006/01/28 19:04:31]	<JordanYoung> alex: before posting IRC logs, _PLEASE_ remove any full email addresses or phone numbers. We have had a few pop up throughout the barcamp.
[2006/01/28 19:04:33]	<jdunck> q:" what is business plan for flock", from .. eh.. the guy in front of me. ;-)
[2006/01/28 19:04:46]	<therealadam> rthrash: alright
[2006/01/28 19:05:22]	<ravenzachary> hint: Yahoo acquisition in Q3
[2006/01/28 19:06:03]	<alexleverington> as long as att doesn't buy yahoo
[2006/01/28 19:06:15]	<ravenzachary> :)
[2006/01/28 19:06:19]	<alexleverington> *sigh*
[2006/01/28 19:06:21]	<JordanYoung> alexleverington: that won't happen because verizon is partnered with yahoo too now.
[2006/01/28 19:06:35]	<mgriego> you hope...
[2006/01/28 19:07:04]	<cgriego> "fllock delivered"
[2006/01/28 19:07:04]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 19:07:09]	<alexleverington> hahaha
[2006/01/28 19:07:16]	<jakedahn> click here to go to barcamp **click** thatnks flock
[2006/01/28 19:07:17]	<jakedahn> ...
[2006/01/28 19:10:13]	<alexleverington> Title: Take a gander at Flock (pun intended)
[2006/01/28 19:10:16]	<alexleverington> ^ - up on the projector
[2006/01/28 19:10:40]	<rthrash> therealadam: you looking at the modx site now?
[2006/01/28 19:10:51]	<therealadam> I gave it a look a second ago
[2006/01/28 19:11:00]	<rthrash> front row?
[2006/01/28 19:11:04]	<therealadam> back row
[2006/01/28 19:11:20]	<jakedahn> hahaha
[2006/01/28 19:11:27]	<therealadam> looking now
[2006/01/28 19:11:35]	<rthrash> sleves rolled up?
[2006/01/28 19:11:36]	<jakedahn> reveal is cool
[2006/01/28 19:11:41]	<therealadam> yar
[2006/01/28 19:12:51]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 19:12:56]	<jesse_flock> it crashes on his system
[2006/01/28 19:13:01]	<jakedahn> not on mine
[2006/01/28 19:13:11]	<jakedahn> ive gotten it to crash 5 times since october
[2006/01/28 19:13:21]	<whurleyvision> I use it everyday
[2006/01/28 19:13:25]	<whurleyvision> no issues
[2006/01/28 19:13:28]	<jakedahn> its my default browser
[2006/01/28 19:13:36]	<whurleyvision> but I also don't use the advanced features that much
[2006/01/28 19:13:53]	* jesse_flock cannot use it as default browser as every time I fix something I have to kill/restart
[2006/01/28 19:13:56]	<whurleyvision> it's my only browser, and it's only had one real issue
[2006/01/28 19:13:56]	<danakin> use Flock as primary. only crashed twice
[2006/01/28 19:14:00]	<whurleyvision> memory leak
[2006/01/28 19:14:15]	<jakedahn> jesse: later you have to help me with a compile error
[2006/01/28 19:14:18]	<whurleyvision> if I leave it open, eventually, I have issues
[2006/01/28 19:14:20]	<jakedahn> thats cool
[2006/01/28 19:14:21]	<jesse_flock> whurleyvision: does it have it on the nightlies or before
[2006/01/28 19:14:24]	<jakedahn> i should install that...
[2006/01/28 19:14:25]	<alexleverington> that's okay, firefox's memory leaks are getting worse :)
[2006/01/28 19:14:30]	<JordanYoung> it's memory leak can't be nearly as bad as IE or Windows in general. :)
[2006/01/28 19:14:51]	<jesse_flock> jakedahn: on irc.flock , lets not flood barcamp
[2006/01/28 19:14:57]	<jakedahn> yeah
[2006/01/28 19:15:00]	<jakedahn> later though
[2006/01/28 19:15:15]	<alexandermuse> my firefox is always beachballing.
[2006/01/28 19:15:51]	<therealadam> your mom is always beachballing
[2006/01/28 19:16:04]	<cgriego> nice
[2006/01/28 19:16:07]	<DaveCopp1> ouch!
[2006/01/28 19:16:12]	<danakin> old school zinger
[2006/01/28 19:16:13]	* therealadam has a penchant for really bad snaps
[2006/01/28 19:16:14]	<jakedahn> pownt
[2006/01/28 19:16:17]	<alexleverington> quote that!
[2006/01/28 19:16:31]	<cgriego> on it
[2006/01/28 19:16:44]	<rthrash> http://quicksilver.blacktree.com/
[2006/01/28 19:16:48]	<jdunck> is true that ff beachballs often. i run a build optimized for g4
[2006/01/28 19:16:55]	<alexandermuse> Suck my beachball...
[2006/01/28 19:16:55]	<jakedahn> damn you cgriego
[2006/01/28 19:17:01]	<jakedahn> always 2 secs ahead of me
[2006/01/28 19:17:02]	<alexleverington> jdunck: where do you get that from?
[2006/01/28 19:17:03]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 19:17:08]	* jakedahn claps!
[2006/01/28 19:17:15]	<alexleverington> that = firefox compiled for g4
[2006/01/28 19:17:17]	<therealadam> deeeeezzzzzz beaaachballs!
[2006/01/28 19:17:19]	<jdunck> one sec
[2006/01/28 19:17:25]	<mgriego> camino...
[2006/01/28 19:17:29]	<missrogueaway> yay joe!
[2006/01/28 19:17:37]	<jdunck> http://www.beatnikpad.com/archives/2005/ 12/01/firefox15
[2006/01/28 19:17:41]	<jakedahn> "Do you use Flock daily?" -Audience "Hell no" -Chris Messina ('...but soon')
[2006/01/28 19:18:14]	<jakedahn> pretty
[2006/01/28 19:18:16]	<alexandermuse> how do you like the video feed?
[2006/01/28 19:18:16]	<mgriego> whoa
[2006/01/28 19:18:20]	<mgriego> acid like
[2006/01/28 19:18:27]	<jakedahn> its lagging
[2006/01/28 19:18:30]	<jakedahn> and glitching
[2006/01/28 19:18:31]	<KevinMarks> electric sheep is taxing th codec
[2006/01/28 19:19:06]	<jakedahn> woah
[2006/01/28 19:19:09]	<jakedahn> only 1 mb too
[2006/01/28 19:19:10]	<jesse_flock> who wanted to know what api's flock's blog publisher could talk?
[2006/01/28 19:19:31]	<KevinMarks> I had that happedn to me at a presentation, and the first audience question was 'cna you turn that off, I can't concentrate on you'
[2006/01/28 19:19:31]	<therealadam> jesse_flock: rthrash did
[2006/01/28 19:19:48]	<alexandermuse> Alex turn on the lights - i.e. brighter.
[2006/01/28 19:19:59]	<jakedahn> yeah turn the camera to the irc room
[2006/01/28 19:20:10]	<jakedahn> if he isnt going to have slides
[2006/01/28 19:20:17]	<KevinMarks> who is talking?
[2006/01/28 19:20:24]	<dsaint_> raven zachary
[2006/01/28 19:20:59]	<factoryjoe> hmm. i wish we had blessed builds of flock
[2006/01/28 19:21:09]	<jakedahn> lol yeah
[2006/01/28 19:21:10]	<jesse_flock> factoryjoe: soon
[2006/01/28 19:21:14]	<jakedahn> it was funny though
[2006/01/28 19:21:16]	<jesse_flock> factoryjoe: 2 weeks right
[2006/01/28 19:21:24]	<cgriego> lights get really bright in the back row
[2006/01/28 19:21:27]	<jdunck> is there a vc here? i have an idea. ;-)
[2006/01/28 19:21:40]	<factoryjoe> how did that go?
[2006/01/28 19:21:42]	<jakedahn> best moment of barcamp: "Do you use Flock daily?" -Audience "Hell no" -Chris Messina ('...but soon')
[2006/01/28 19:21:52]	<factoryjoe> ;)
[2006/01/28 19:21:55]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 19:21:57]	<jakedahn> that was good
[2006/01/28 19:22:02]	<factoryjoe> yeah i hope i didn't totally trash flock too much
[2006/01/28 19:22:02]	<factoryjoe> ;)
[2006/01/28 19:22:11]	<jakedahn> hey do they have BarCampDallas shirts?
[2006/01/28 19:22:14]	<cgriego> Developers! Developers! Developers!
[2006/01/28 19:22:14]	<therealadam> mouseHole is for teh win
[2006/01/28 19:22:15]	<jesse_flock> factoryjoe: keep peoples expectations low
[2006/01/28 19:22:23]	<factoryjoe> jakedahn: i think they reserved one for you
[2006/01/28 19:22:26]	<factoryjoe> jesse_flock: i do that well
[2006/01/28 19:22:27]	<factoryjoe> ;)
[2006/01/28 19:22:29]	<jakedahn> aight sweet
[2006/01/28 19:23:25]	<jesse_flock> http://www.fundable.org/
[2006/01/28 19:23:39]	<jdunck> jakedahn: yes
[2006/01/28 19:23:47]	<jdunck> were on table outside in morning. dunno if any left
[2006/01/28 19:24:12]	<jakedahn> jdunck: think chris was right when he said they reserved one for me?
[2006/01/28 19:24:15]	<jakedahn> or doubt it?
[2006/01/28 19:24:29]	<jdunck> jakedahn: sorry, dunno
[2006/01/28 19:24:36]	<jakedahn> aye
[2006/01/28 19:24:41]	<jdunck> i'm just another attendee ;-)
[2006/01/28 19:24:46]	<factoryjoe> talk to cks
[2006/01/28 19:24:50]	<therealadam> I think the t-shirts ran out...I didn't manage to get one ;(
[2006/01/28 19:25:04]	<jakedahn> cks: you there?
[2006/01/28 19:25:11]	<alexleverington> therealadam: run out there, a few left
[2006/01/28 19:25:17]	<alexleverington> they are set on th efloor i think
[2006/01/28 19:25:29]	<factoryjoe> therealadam: are you the rails adam?
[2006/01/28 19:25:40]	<therealadam> factoryjoe: yes
[2006/01/28 19:25:49]	<factoryjoe> ah, therealadam meet jesse_flock
[2006/01/28 19:25:51]	<factoryjoe> ;)
[2006/01/28 19:25:56]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 19:25:59]	<mgriego> all about the tax writeoff
[2006/01/28 19:26:09]	<therealadam> sure, pleased to meet jesse_flock
[2006/01/28 19:26:09]	<cks> jakedahn: am now, what's up?
[2006/01/28 19:26:16]	<factoryjoe> mgriego: are you related to cgriego?
[2006/01/28 19:26:22]	<factoryjoe> or is that too obvious?
[2006/01/28 19:26:23]	<jakedahn> cks: got a XXL shirt left?
[2006/01/28 19:26:23]	<cks> ahh, t-shirt, just a sec
[2006/01/28 19:26:28]	<mgriego> factoryjoe: brothers
[2006/01/28 19:26:31]	<factoryjoe> ah ha
[2006/01/28 19:26:50]	<factoryjoe> together you form.... "MC GRIEGO"
[2006/01/28 19:26:57]	<jakedahn> heh
[2006/01/28 19:27:02]	<mgriego> I'm not sure how to take that :)
[2006/01/28 19:27:11]	<cks> jakedahn: only got a medium left
[2006/01/28 19:27:16]	<jakedahn> aight
[2006/01/28 19:27:18]	<jakedahn> forget it
[2006/01/28 19:27:20]	<cks> sorry, that going to work for you?
[2006/01/28 19:27:24]	<jakedahn> nope
[2006/01/28 19:27:29]	<jakedahn> im too big ;)
[2006/01/28 19:27:34]	<jakedahn> its all good
[2006/01/28 19:27:45]	<cgriego> is it worth setting up a i-didn't-get-a-shirt wiki page and getting more printed to that order?
[2006/01/28 19:27:52]	<cks> bummer, people who are here in person got first pick, you were first in line of the virtual attendees
[2006/01/28 19:28:10]	<cks> although... the logos are online, you should be able to get a shirt from one of the online t-shirt services
[2006/01/28 19:28:19]	<jakedahn> aye
[2006/01/28 19:28:20]	<cks> not for free, though :-(
[2006/01/28 19:28:29]	<alexleverington> i'll create a wiki page, i'm not official so i can't guarantee but I can create the page :)
[2006/01/28 19:28:32]	<cks> we can "bless" it as an official t-shirt
[2006/01/28 19:28:35]	<jakedahn> yeah im a broke 15 year old kid with bills to pay
[2006/01/28 19:28:37]	<cgriego> jakedahn: I can hook you up with the t-shirt-ready hi-res logo
[2006/01/28 19:28:52]	<jakedahn> cgriego: for free?
[2006/01/28 19:29:01]	<cgriego> you could do a cheap printed iron transfer even
[2006/01/28 19:29:15]	<factoryjoe> i just need to get the goodstorm store going
[2006/01/28 19:29:21]	* jakedahn has $0
[2006/01/28 19:29:30]	<jakedahn> and i need to pay for internet in a week
[2006/01/28 19:29:32]	<jakedahn> :-\
[2006/01/28 19:29:39]	<missrogueaway> I'm a # of others
[2006/01/28 19:29:52]	* mgriego will give jakedahn his 2xl shirt
[2006/01/28 19:30:05]	<jesse_flock> argh.. kil lthe screensaver... it makes audio skip
[2006/01/28 19:30:06]	<jakedahn> really?
[2006/01/28 19:30:12]	<mgriego> sure...
[2006/01/28 19:30:17]	* jakedahn bows to mgriego
[2006/01/28 19:30:18]	@ Quit: ravenzachary:
[2006/01/28 19:32:52]	@ ravenz joined channel #barcampdallas
[2006/01/28 19:34:20]	<factoryjoe> hey missrogueaway
[2006/01/28 19:34:33]	<jdunck> "Hoodwink'rs overtake the web together, just like the druids of oldenyear would if they quit dickin around at stonehenge and found a way to express their fiery ardour through Javaescripts."
[2006/01/28 19:34:34]	<factoryjoe> guess you missed my rambling nonsense?
[2006/01/28 19:34:35]	<missrogueaway> I'm away dontcha know?
[2006/01/28 19:34:37]	<jdunck> heh
[2006/01/28 19:34:39]	<missrogueaway> nope
[2006/01/28 19:34:43]	<factoryjoe> oh
[2006/01/28 19:34:44]	<factoryjoe> ;)
[2006/01/28 19:34:53]	<missrogueaway> I am hanging pictures while you were presenting in the background

[2006/01/28 19:34:55]	<jesse_flock> jdunck: awesome
[2006/01/28 19:35:07]	<missrogueaway> ....and it sounded awesome ;)
[2006/01/28 19:35:13]	<jdunck> jesse_flock: never looked at hoodwinkd before..
[2006/01/28 19:35:21]	<jdunck> ppl here been mentioning it
[2006/01/28 19:35:21]	<bingeldac> it rules
[2006/01/28 19:35:55]	<jakedahn> anyone want to try to brighten the camera?
[2006/01/28 19:36:02]	<jakedahn> thanks
[2006/01/28 19:36:15]	<jesse_flock> jdunck: yeah.. used hoodwinkd a while ago... there have been proxies that moded pages before but hoodwinkd is in ruby so it is nice ;)
[2006/01/28 19:36:35]	<bingeldac> wekk hoodwinkd is also avaialble via grease monkey
[2006/01/28 19:36:39]	<therealadam> is hoodwinkd still run through mousehole?
[2006/01/28 19:36:49]	<bingeldac> you can use either
[2006/01/28 19:36:56]	<bingeldac> I like MouseHole for other things myself
[2006/01/28 19:37:14]	<alexleverington> is audio okay?
[2006/01/28 19:37:15]	<therealadam> has anyone looked at how mousehole does greasemonkey compatability?
[2006/01/28 19:37:19]	<therealadam> its flippin brilliant
[2006/01/28 19:37:30]	<cgriego> there was once a off-site comments engine in IE
[2006/01/28 19:37:44]	<jdunck> cgriego: aside from blogger web comments? ;-)
[2006/01/28 19:37:45]	<jesse_flock> factoryjoe: 100,000 isn't anything
[2006/01/28 19:38:05]	<jesse_flock> factoryjoe: heck tux typing has been downloaded over 250k times
[2006/01/28 19:38:21]	<jakedahn> yeah FF has a few mil
[2006/01/28 19:39:44]	<alexleverington> a few mil is a lot when you compare it to how many people have macs versus PCs, yet how pervasive macs are
[2006/01/28 19:39:59]	<jakedahn> yeah
[2006/01/28 19:42:47]	<therealadam> SHDH is such a flippin' cool idea
[2006/01/28 19:42:53]	<therealadam> and I want to start a local MashPit
[2006/01/28 19:42:58]	<therealadam> anyone else interested in that?
[2006/01/28 19:43:02]	@ Quit: jdunck:
[2006/01/28 19:43:03]	<jesse_flock> shdh is great ...
[2006/01/28 19:43:03]	<alexleverington> therealadam: yes!
[2006/01/28 19:43:05]	<ravenz> SHDH is happening with BarCamp Dallas
[2006/01/28 19:43:07]	<ravenz> err
[2006/01/28 19:43:08]	<ravenz> Austin!
[2006/01/28 19:43:09]	<alexandermuse> hell yea.
[2006/01/28 19:43:09]	<ravenz> i mean
[2006/01/28 19:43:12]	<dsaint_> therealadam: hell yeah
[2006/01/28 19:43:42]	<therealadam> factoryjoe and I were talking about organizing a MashPit tomorrow
[2006/01/28 19:43:49]	<ravenz> Cool, he is in town
[2006/01/28 19:43:49]	<therealadam> I'm afraid I might be drained though
[2006/01/28 19:43:52]	<ravenz> we can do it
[2006/01/28 19:44:09]	<jakedahn> hey if yall do a mashpit make sure you have a camera
[2006/01/28 19:44:13]	<therealadam> I'll push through the pain!
[2006/01/28 19:44:17]	<jakedahn> i would like to participate from here
[2006/01/28 19:44:40]	<alexandermuse> mashpit tomorrow not so good for me.
[2006/01/28 19:44:58]	<therealadam> we can probably do a mashpit at Pure Discovery
[2006/01/28 19:45:04]	<ravenz> Chris isn't leaving until Monday 4pm
[2006/01/28 19:45:05]	<therealadam> as long as it doesn't get flippin' huge
[2006/01/28 19:45:10]	<ravenz> Monday is an option too
[2006/01/28 19:45:29]	* alexleverington definately working on monday
[2006/01/28 19:45:35]	<cgriego> Chris is getting quiet
[2006/01/28 19:45:38]	<alexleverington> monday night?
[2006/01/28 19:45:52]	<alexleverington> ...chris leaving though
[2006/01/28 19:47:05]	<therealadam> he used flickr to design flock, I don't get that?
[2006/01/28 19:47:22]	<ravenz> posts screenshots, highlights and comments parts of a photo - good for UI
[2006/01/28 19:47:22]	<alexleverington> tags and webcam images maybe?
[2006/01/28 19:47:22]	<missrogueaway> he posts his mockups on flickr and gets feedback from the community
[2006/01/28 19:47:26]	<jakedahn> ask em to rephrase it
[2006/01/28 19:47:45]	<alexleverington> this is good stuff
[2006/01/28 19:47:51]	<jakedahn> yeah it is
[2006/01/28 19:47:57]	<jesse_flock> the only problem is when developers to to do stuff it is hard for us to figure out when something is where
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[2006/01/28 19:48:03]	<jakedahn> here we go with the EFF the RIAA talk
[2006/01/28 19:48:33]	<kevinmarvin> realadam: Let me know the time on the mashpit thing, I will be there.
[2006/01/28 19:48:50]	<jesse_flock> (at least when flickr decides to cripple the users account)
[2006/01/28 19:48:51]	<ravenz> We should talk after this presentation about plans for mashpit
[2006/01/28 19:48:59]	<alexleverington> therealadam: it might not be a bad idea to make them weekly, so tons of people can come any given sunday
[2006/01/28 19:49:11]	<alexleverington> therealadam: but won't be obligated to 'x day of the month'
[2006/01/28 19:49:16]	<jakedahn> ravenz take over the center screen and hold a conference
[2006/01/28 19:49:19]	<mgriego> now that football is over :)
[2006/01/28 19:49:46]	<ravenz> We'll figure out Sunday plans in a bit
[2006/01/28 19:50:12]	<jesse_flock> time to get back to improving flock ... peace out bc-dallas
[2006/01/28 19:50:14]	<alexleverington> i just know i can't make this one but would really like to attend them
[2006/01/28 19:50:22]	<jakedahn> talk to ya in a bit jesse
[2006/01/28 19:50:24]	<ravenz> bye! thank you for coming
[2006/01/28 19:50:26]	<alexleverington> jesse_flock: thank you for attending
[2006/01/28 19:50:43]	<therealadam> I heart licenses!
[2006/01/28 19:50:45]	<alexandermuse> Is there a wiki for mashpit dallas?
[2006/01/28 19:50:56]	<therealadam> alexandermuse: the idea is 10 minutes old :0
[2006/01/28 19:50:57]	<jesse_flock> np ... wish I had time to be there in person but we have a release that should fix all the things chris demostrated
[2006/01/28 19:51:00]	<ravenz> I think mashpit dallas was just born in this IRC chat.
[2006/01/28 19:51:03]	<jesse_flock> in a couple weeks
[2006/01/28 19:51:26]	<alexleverington> alexandermuse: we should throw up wiki to go with all of the things that come out of barcamp (instead of just the schedules, events, attendees, etc)
[2006/01/28 19:51:32]	<kevinmarvin> Blame Chris for breaking them, like I blame alexmuse
[2006/01/28 19:51:38]	<alexandermuse> http://mashpit.org/
[2006/01/28 19:51:45]	<cgriego> since the mashpit.org site hasn't launched, could probably set that up on barcamp.org
[2006/01/28 19:51:46]	<alexandermuse> I agree...
[2006/01/28 19:51:54]	<alexleverington> chris's good idea
[2006/01/28 19:52:24]	<therealadam> alexleverington: can I have the BarCampDallas page?
[2006/01/28 19:52:34]	@ Quit: whurleyvision:
[2006/01/28 19:52:34]	<blakestar> therealadam: http://www.flickr.com/photos/brianoberki rch/92370790/
[2006/01/28 19:52:35]	<mgriego> why would you want to change the license except to restrict rights in some other way?
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[2006/01/28 19:52:51]	<therealadam> blakestar: yessss
[2006/01/28 19:52:51]	<alexleverington> http://barcamp.pbwiki.com/BarCampDallas
[2006/01/28 19:52:53]	<alexandermuse> You guys can do it here if either Alex or Kevin will host...
[2006/01/28 19:53:07]	<alexleverington> i will
[2006/01/28 19:53:10]	@ Quit: jeremyk: Remote closed the connection
[2006/01/28 19:53:17]	<jdunck> bleh.. is someone posting the chat log?
[2006/01/28 19:53:20]	<therealadam> alexleverington: no, you have the edit lock
[2006/01/28 19:53:26]	<blakestar> any interested in Cocoa dev party?
[2006/01/28 19:53:27]	<kevinmarvin> here or at Adam's place, I can do either
[2006/01/28 19:53:43]	<alexleverington> therealadam: take it over, the wiki threw up when I tried to edit it :/
[2006/01/28 19:54:00]	<mgriego> blakestar: yes definitely
[2006/01/28 19:54:14]	<DaveCopp1> therealadam: you're famous for all the wrong things - you rule!
[2006/01/28 19:54:16]	@ Quit: rthrash:
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[2006/01/28 19:54:43]	<alexleverington> therealadam: i logged out of the wiki, it should've kicked me off the lock
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[2006/01/28 19:57:39]	<therealadam> http://barcamp.org/BarCampDallasOffshots
[2006/01/28 19:57:52]	<ravenz> Offshoots?
[2006/01/28 19:58:08]	* therealadam shot = past tense?
[2006/01/28 19:59:08]	<KevinMarks> why govt and not private patronage?
[2006/01/28 19:59:51]	<KevinMarks> do you think govt would do barcamp better?
[2006/01/28 20:00:08]	<jdunck> KevinMarks: heh. bar camp doesn't need a sponsor. but.
[2006/01/28 20:00:18]	<alexleverington> KevinMarks: i think he may have been making a correlation
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[2006/01/28 20:00:42]	@ Quit: video-guy: "cya later"
[2006/01/28 20:00:42]	<jdunck> Wikipedia wouldn't have happened w/o patron model. even so, it's scary to have really important stuff depend on goodwill of one guy (or benev dictators)
[2006/01/28 20:01:05]	<alexleverington> history repeats itself no less
[2006/01/28 20:01:27]	<jdunck> archive.org too.
[2006/01/28 20:01:46]	<ravenz> The whole concept of "the 100 top thinkers in technology" is ludicrous.
[2006/01/28 20:02:00]	<alexleverington> ravenz: i definately agree
[2006/01/28 20:02:24]	<jdunck> ravenz: true, but there are really smart ppl that make a living by travelling and talking.
[2006/01/28 20:02:34]	<jdunck> that'd need to be propped
[2006/01/28 20:02:39]	<jdunck> or the convo suffers..
[2006/01/28 20:02:54]	<jeremyk> ravenz: would that list correlate with the 100 top self promoters? :)
[2006/01/28 20:03:39]	<alexleverington> does the conference have a roundabout endtime?
[2006/01/28 20:03:56]	<ravenz> Good question. This is the last scheduled talk.
[2006/01/28 20:04:08]	<jdunck> alexleverington: whenever u want ;-)
[2006/01/28 20:04:39]	<alexleverington> certainly not up to me (except for the video feed), others will have to stay for cleanup
[2006/01/28 20:05:13]	<KevinMarks> the irony was we couldn't get the video link between the two working
[2006/01/28 20:05:26]	<KevinMarks> 'cos O'Reilly's firewall was too crap
[2006/01/28 20:05:43]	<JordanYoung> ummm..
[2006/01/28 20:05:47]	<JordanYoung> our video feed has been running fine.
[2006/01/28 20:05:51]	<KevinMarks> yes
[2006/01/28 20:05:57]	<KevinMarks> well done
[2006/01/28 20:06:02]	<kevinmarvin> Those who can, do.
[2006/01/28 20:06:12]	<alexleverington> when you're behind a firewall you have to do a manual unicast
[2006/01/28 20:06:18]	<KevinMarks> the problem was nto having a refector with ahard IP address
[2006/01/28 20:06:22]	<JordanYoung> volume was that worst problem with it.
[2006/01/28 20:06:29]	<cks> i brought a vacuum for cleanup. is anyone camping?
[2006/01/28 20:06:35]	<kevinmarvin> we will farm Leverington out to O'Reilly.
[2006/01/28 20:06:39]	<KevinMarks> I know alex, I wrote the guts of QT Broadcasting
[2006/01/28 20:06:42]	<kevinmarvin> :P
[2006/01/28 20:06:47]	<alexleverington> KevinMarks: let me know if you ever need a reflector
[2006/01/28 20:06:53]	<KevinMarks> thanks!
[2006/01/28 20:06:54]	<alexleverington> KevinMarks: that's awesome! (i'm using it right now)
[2006/01/28 20:07:07]	<alexleverington> KevinMarks: i've got a box on 100mbps and I don't really use the allocated bw
[2006/01/28 20:07:14]	<KevinMarks> excellent
[2006/01/28 20:07:22]	<alexleverington> we can use the DS3 here, but we have high traffic that runs over the weekend (uses about 24mbps)
[2006/01/28 20:07:25]	<KevinMarks> this si looking very good
[2006/01/28 20:07:35]	<alexleverington> KevinMarks: have you seen qtss exceed 70 users on a redhat box?
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[2006/01/28 20:08:11]	<KevinMarks> hm, we had over 1000 a box when i was at apple
[2006/01/28 20:08:20]	<alexleverington> xserves?
[2006/01/28 20:08:27]	<KevinMarks> but you choke on network connectiosn first
[2006/01/28 20:08:38]	<alexleverington> ...gbps NICs? (I usually run 384 or 512 streams)
[2006/01/28 20:08:55]	<KevinMarks> the highly scaled up stuff we did with akamai on their linux boxes
[2006/01/28 20:09:52]	<therealadam> ravenz, KevinMarvin are you guys still editing MashPitDallas and DallasRubyBrigade?
[2006/01/28 20:10:24]	<kevinmarvin> no
[2006/01/28 20:10:29]	<ravenz> not me
[2006/01/28 20:10:31]	<kevinmarvin> that thing locks odd
[2006/01/28 20:10:38]	<therealadam> your mom locks odd
[2006/01/28 20:10:39]	<ravenz> blow the lock
[2006/01/28 20:10:42]	<cgriego> CocoaDevParty should be added to Offshots?
[2006/01/28 20:10:50]	<JordanYoung> therealadam: it wasn't that funny that time.
[2006/01/28 20:10:50]	<KevinMarks> alex - email me kevinmarks@mac.com
[2006/01/28 20:10:59]	<alexleverington> sure thing
[2006/01/28 20:11:08]	<therealadam> apparently there's not a lock for creating pages
[2006/01/28 20:11:08]	<blakestar> who's got a logo idea for CDP?
[2006/01/28 20:11:12]	<therealadam> its just in limbo forever :\
[2006/01/28 20:11:12]	<jakedahn> i was in barcampnewyork backchannel ;)
[2006/01/28 20:11:13]	* alexleverington opens entourage - watches video rate tank
[2006/01/28 20:11:14]	<kevinmarvin> hehe - my mom.
[2006/01/28 20:11:42]	<therealadam> JordanYoung: that's the point!
[2006/01/28 20:11:49]	<kevinmarvin> therealadam: you left out the event horizon.
[2006/01/28 20:12:00]	<therealadam> and deeeeezzzz beachballs
[2006/01/28 20:12:07]	<brianoberkirch> they are outsourcing barcamp india
[2006/01/28 20:12:07]	<kevinmarvin> lol
[2006/01/28 20:12:12]	<ravenz> Ha
[2006/01/28 20:12:14]	<kevinmarvin> To manila?
[2006/01/28 20:12:19]	<blakestar> barcamp bangalore
[2006/01/28 20:12:20]	<jeremyk> if anyone wants uncompressed audio of all the presentations I've recorded you can hook up to my firewire drive and pull them off to your machine
[2006/01/28 20:12:31]	<jeremyk> after we get done of course ... :)
[2006/01/28 20:12:40]	<blakestar> I'll buy the shirt if no one buys me a ticket
[2006/01/28 20:12:46]	<jakedahn> whats with the video?
[2006/01/28 20:12:50]	<jakedahn> its skipping like crazy
[2006/01/28 20:12:57]	<JordanYoung> alex is using entourage right now
[2006/01/28 20:13:00]	<JordanYoung> it's hogging the resources.
[2006/01/28 20:13:01]	<ravenz> :)
[2006/01/28 20:13:04]	<jakedahn> ah
[2006/01/28 20:13:05]	<therealadam> ok how do we unstick the new wiki pages?
[2006/01/28 20:13:06]	<jakedahn> smack em
[2006/01/28 20:13:07]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 20:13:09]	<mgriego> the video got outsourced
[2006/01/28 20:13:13]	<JordanYoung> hahaha
[2006/01/28 20:13:14]	<JordanYoung> yeah
[2006/01/28 20:13:21]	<kevinmarvin> use a browser, leverington.
[2006/01/28 20:13:21]	<blakestar> audio interviews will be posted to archive.org when I can peel them off this iRiver
[2006/01/28 20:13:21]	<JordanYoung> we had to outsource it to south dakota or some crap.
[2006/01/28 20:13:25]	<kevinmarvin> dont kill teh feed!
[2006/01/28 20:13:35]	<alexleverington> i promise we'll have a dedicated box for video feed next time
[2006/01/28 20:14:03]	<alexleverington> okay, back to 8fps :)

[2006/01/28 20:14:05]	<JordanYoung> we're not using a significant amount of bandwidth at this point. Only 3-4.5mbps of bandwidth.
[2006/01/28 20:14:22]	<alexandermuse> Guys, if you could carry your chair to just outside our space that would help me a bunch. Just fold it up...
[2006/01/28 20:14:31]	<jdunck> k
[2006/01/28 20:15:10]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 20:15:13]	<ravenz> Are these chairs not for this room?
[2006/01/28 20:15:25]	<kevinmarvin> nope
[2006/01/28 20:15:25]	<alexandermuse> these are rental chairs.
[2006/01/28 20:15:28]	<ravenz> oh ok
[2006/01/28 20:15:29]	<kevinmarvin> we hid the good chairs ;)
[2006/01/28 20:15:41]	<mgriego> Next time, we need a pool to get better rental chairs
[2006/01/28 20:15:44]	<cks> http://gracedavis.typepad.com/ : woolfcamp
[2006/01/28 20:15:50]	<JordanYoung> honestly, if you guys had to sit in these chairs to work every day, i would feel sorry for your butts.
[2006/01/28 20:15:53]	<jakedahn> http://flickr.com/photos/foolswisdom/912 39490/in/photostream/ <-- jesse
[2006/01/28 20:15:56]	<alexleverington> what is Chris' blog address?
[2006/01/28 20:16:03]	<alexleverington> JordanYoung: we don't
[2006/01/28 20:16:05]	<JordanYoung> these things are so uncomfortable. and that's coming from a person with plenty of cushion!
[2006/01/28 20:16:07]	<jakedahn> http://factoryjoe.com/blog/
[2006/01/28 20:16:16]	* mgriego agrees with JordanYoung
[2006/01/28 20:16:25]	<alexandermuse> I had fun guys...I am headed home, but if you guys are going to mashpit tomorrow someone call me...
[2006/01/28 20:16:33]	* cgriego is sitting on his coat, which isn't helping much
[2006/01/28 20:16:34]	<kevinmarvin> later muse
[2006/01/28 20:16:37]	<kevinmarvin> I will call you
[2006/01/28 20:16:39]	<JordanYoung> me too. we are needing to stop the feed.
[2006/01/28 20:16:48]	<JordanYoung> everybody cool with us stopping the video feed now?
[2006/01/28 20:16:53]	<alexandermuse> sure.
[2006/01/28 20:16:56]	<alexandermuse> kill it.
[2006/01/28 20:16:57]	<cks> gotta do what you gotta do
[2006/01/28 20:16:57]	<alexandermuse> :(
[2006/01/28 20:17:02]	<bingeldac> alexandermuse: did you do your vc talk at all?
[2006/01/28 20:17:04]	<alexleverington> :(
[2006/01/28 20:17:17]	<alexandermuse> Nah, there was not time... Big in Japan will have to stay in Japan.
[2006/01/28 20:17:21]	<alexleverington> we should get started on the next barcamp before people are ready to leave
[2006/01/28 20:17:21]	<JordanYoung> we got it all archived. we will upload it to a server for download as quickly as we can. It should be posted on the wiki (link)
[2006/01/28 20:17:37]	<alexleverington> like, a real quick quip on where to go to collaborate on when/where/who for the next dallas barcamp
[2006/01/28 20:17:39]	<bingeldac> alexandermuse: schucks. I was looking forward to it. Maybe at barcamp 2.0
[2006/01/28 20:17:52]	<alexandermuse> :) It might even be ready by then...
[2006/01/28 20:18:08]	<kevinmarvin> heh
[2006/01/28 20:18:17]	<kevinmarvin> Caffo gets a breather.
[2006/01/28 20:18:27]	<cks> google: open spaces
[2006/01/28 20:18:33]	<JordanYoung> qlexleverington: mailing list, available @ barcamp.org ?
[2006/01/28 20:18:33]	<alexleverington> is he still coding for the presentation? :)
[2006/01/28 20:18:50]	<alexandermuse> So, if you want to play with alpha go to http://podserve.biggu.com
[2006/01/28 20:18:52]	<alexleverington> let's go!
[2006/01/28 20:19:05]	<alexandermuse> Brian is going to give a little speech...
[2006/01/28 20:19:21]	<alexleverington> AWESOME
[2006/01/28 20:19:42]	<jakedahn> yeah MashPit! with a camera and backchannl!
[2006/01/28 20:19:51]	<alexleverington> i won't be there with the camera :(
[2006/01/28 20:19:54]	<alexleverington> someone else will need to
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[2006/01/28 20:20:00]	<JordanYoung> jake: unfortunately, i don't think that will happen.
[2006/01/28 20:20:11]	<alexleverington> already promised the significant other
[2006/01/28 20:20:12]	<jakedahn> :'(
[2006/01/28 20:20:13]	@ Quit: alexandermuse:
[2006/01/28 20:20:18]	<jakedahn> tell chris to adress a camera
[2006/01/28 20:20:31]	<jakedahn> someone there is bound to have one!
[2006/01/28 20:21:13]	* alexleverington cutting the video feed
[2006/01/28 20:21:19]	<jakedahn> no
[2006/01/28 20:21:23]	<jakedahn> please wait
[2006/01/28 20:21:35]	<alexleverington> ...
[2006/01/28 20:21:36]	<alexleverington> hrm
[2006/01/28 20:21:36]	<jakedahn> wait till he finishes
[2006/01/28 20:21:41]	<cks> make it quick and merciful
[2006/01/28 20:21:42]	<jakedahn> where are you going?
[2006/01/28 20:21:43]	<therealadam> mashpit wiki page up
[2006/01/28 20:21:45]	<therealadam> http://barcamp.org/MashPitDallas
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[2006/01/28 20:22:34]	<ravenz> 10am Sunday, InfoMart
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[2006/01/28 20:23:06]	<alexleverington> killing feed now
[2006/01/28 20:23:10]	<alexleverington> this last stuff will be on the wiki
[2006/01/28 20:23:11]	<factoryjoe> phew
[2006/01/28 20:23:22]	@ Quit: JordanYoung:
[2006/01/28 20:23:22]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 20:23:24]	<jakedahn> and its dead
[2006/01/28 20:23:28]	<jakedahn> :)
[2006/01/28 20:23:37]	@ Quit: jdunck:
[2006/01/28 20:23:40]	<jakedahn> i had the feed open for	6:21
[2006/01/28 20:23:43]	<alexleverington> i'm leaving irc oepn to log the chat
[2006/01/28 20:24:06]	<ravenz> adios all - probably take the remaining group off to coffeeland
[2006/01/28 20:24:12]	<ravenz> someplace
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[2006/01/28 20:24:47]	<therealadam> bye bye BarCamp Dallas!
[2006/01/28 20:24:54]	@ Quit: blakestar:
[2006/01/28 20:25:00]	<jakedahn> bye
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[2006/01/28 20:25:12]	<factoryjoe> adios!
[2006/01/28 20:25:25]	@ Quit: factoryjoe:
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[2006/01/28 22:27:04]	<digitalbuddha> hey all, barcamp still going strong down there?
[2006/01/28 22:27:46]	<jakedahn> i doubt it
[2006/01/28 22:27:59]	<jakedahn> i wouldnt know..
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[2006/01/28 22:56:17]	<mgriego> so who's still up at the Informart?
[2006/01/28 22:57:25]	<jakedahn> informart?
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[2006/01/28 22:59:30]	<ba> word!
[2006/01/28 23:00:01]	<ba> whos box is the streaming media server on. its so as hell
[2006/01/28 23:00:56]	<ba> and it just timed out
[2006/01/28 23:01:08]	<jakedahn> ba what link were you using?
[2006/01/28 23:01:13]	<ba> anyone here from the videobloggers mailing list?
[2006/01/28 23:01:27]	<ba> http://67.19.70.244:8000/barcamp.sdp
[2006/01/28 23:02:18]	<jakedahn> ba: im pretty sure the feed was cut at like 8PM
[2006/01/28 23:02:26]	<ba> weird
[2006/01/28 23:02:30]	<ba> thats lame
[2006/01/28 23:02:38]	<jakedahn> well it was a live feed
[2006/01/28 23:02:44]	<ba> oh i see
[2006/01/28 23:02:46]	<jakedahn> and last presentation was then
[2006/01/28 23:02:48]	<ba> was it recorded at all?
[2006/01/28 23:03:02]	<jakedahn> i believe Alex Leverington recorded it
[2006/01/28 23:03:20]	<mgriego> I think they only recorded audio
[2006/01/28 23:03:23]	<jakedahn> he is going to edit it, he said his estimate for file size is 600mb
[2006/01/28 23:03:41]	<jakedahn> mgriego: nah, he had the video coming down
[2006/01/28 23:03:52]	<jakedahn> he said it was over a gig
[2006/01/28 23:04:01]	<jakedahn> and he needed to edit intermisions
[2006/01/28 23:04:03]	<jakedahn> and such
[2006/01/28 23:04:04]	<mgriego> ah, ok
[2006/01/28 23:04:46]	<ba> why not chunk it down into smaller peices and make a podcast out of it?
[2006/01/28 23:05:12]	<jakedahn> ba: no clue, im going to burn it to dvd lol
[2006/01/28 23:05:38]	<ba> ya
[2006/01/28 23:05:56]	<ba> i guess i could do the same... but its still a pain to download
[2006/01/28 23:06:01]	<ba> oh well, its not my bandwidth
[2006/01/28 23:06:10]	* ba pats wifi can
[2006/01/28 23:06:54]	@ mgriego set topic "Bathrooms are down the (long) hall, on the right"
[2006/01/28 23:07:16]	<jakedahn> 600mb a pain?
[2006/01/28 23:07:42]	<ba> sometimes it all depends on the weather...
[2006/01/28 23:07:51]	<ba> im stealing wifi from someone two blocks away
[2006/01/28 23:08:02]	<ba> if a butter fly farts in africa i loss my connection
[2006/01/28 23:08:31]	* mgriego farts and is bigger than a butterfly :)
[2006/01/28 23:08:58]	* ba fribreses mgriego
[2006/01/28 23:09:02]	<ba> if thats how you spell it
[2006/01/28 23:09:12]	<ba> fibrease?
[2006/01/28 23:09:14]	<ba> whatever
[2006/01/28 23:09:32]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 23:09:45]	<ba> you ever spray that shit on a cat... they freak out, and hate you for days
[2006/01/28 23:09:52]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 23:09:56]	<jakedahn> ill try that tomorrow
[2006/01/28 23:10:01]	<jakedahn> i have 3 cats :D
[2006/01/28 23:10:07]	<ba> just dont get it in their eyes, thats just mean
[2006/01/28 23:10:12]	<jakedahn> yeah
[2006/01/28 23:10:28]	* ba likes to torture cats
[2006/01/28 23:10:54]	<ba> not mean torture, like im going to fuck with your head and hide your litter box torture
[2006/01/28 23:10:56]	<jakedahn> ba: ever put one in a microwave, heard its great fun..
[2006/01/28 23:10:59]	<jakedahn> just kidding!
[2006/01/28 23:11:15]	<ba> thats just mean
[2006/01/28 23:11:24]	<jakedahn> i know
[2006/01/28 23:11:25]	<ba> besides everyone knows microwaves are for babies
[2006/01/28 23:11:28]	<jakedahn> i would never do that
[2006/01/28 23:11:32]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 23:11:52]	<ba> so i just got this irc chan off the video bloggers mailing list
[2006/01/28 23:12:00]	<ba> who here actually uses linux
[2006/01/28 23:12:20]	<digitalbuddha> hey ba, ya I am from videobloggers..was afk..
[2006/01/28 23:12:39]	* jakedahn raises hand
[2006/01/28 23:12:39]	<ba> was...?
[2006/01/28 23:12:48]	<digitalbuddha> yah I am back now! :)
[2006/01/28 23:12:56]	<jakedahn> but i dont use linux as a primary OS
[2006/01/28 23:13:08]	<jakedahn> im a Mac kid ;)
[2006/01/28 23:13:08]	<ba> jakedahn: what distro you use
[2006/01/28 23:13:14]	<jakedahn> Ubuntu pimped version
[2006/01/28 23:13:17]	<ba> oh man, i so wish i could afford a mac
[2006/01/28 23:13:20]	<jakedahn> lol my GUI is godly
[2006/01/28 23:13:20]	<ba> ubuntu pimped?
[2006/01/28 23:13:31]	<ba> is that an official distro
[2006/01/28 23:13:44]	<jakedahn> no, lol i should make it one
[2006/01/28 23:14:08]	<ba> haha, i know what you mean, you should see my pimped ubuntu desktop
[2006/01/28 23:14:19]	<jakedahn> but yeah im almost never on linux because i only have a Mac that will run it decently and PPC linux doesnt have much for it
[2006/01/28 23:14:22]	<ba> im using windows more as of late, its just better to edit video and do my podcast on
[2006/01/28 23:14:37]	<jakedahn> link to podcast?
[2006/01/28 23:14:42]	<ba> it isnt up yet.
[2006/01/28 23:14:47]	<ba> but my site is www.nerdxcore.net
[2006/01/28 23:15:15]	<jakedahn> DAMN
[2006/01/28 23:15:16]	<ba> its going to be a daily podcast with 7 djs. each day there will be a different music genre
[2006/01/28 23:15:19]	<jakedahn> did you make the design!?
[2006/01/28 23:15:27]	<jakedahn> that is awesome, i love it
[2006/01/28 23:15:39]	<ba> jakedahn, no i raped it off the wordpress theme archive
[2006/01/28 23:15:48]	<jakedahn> ahh
[2006/01/28 23:15:54]	<jakedahn> thats a tight theme!
[2006/01/28 23:16:00]	<ba> i made the header though :D
[2006/01/28 23:16:26]	<ba> the forums are nice to
[2006/01/28 23:16:54]	<jakedahn> i am yet to master that style of header

[2006/01/28 23:16:59]	<jakedahn> how do you do the white thing?
[2006/01/28 23:17:01]	<jakedahn> overlay?
[2006/01/28 23:17:06]	<jakedahn> i mean the top half of it
[2006/01/28 23:17:14]	<ba> oh you mean the glossy effect
[2006/01/28 23:17:26]	<jakedahn> yeah
[2006/01/28 23:17:42]	<ba> just wait lemme find the tutorial link
[2006/01/28 23:18:38]	<ba> fuck the one i used is down
[2006/01/28 23:18:48]	<ba> but i have a second link, but its pretty much the same think
[2006/01/28 23:18:48]	<jakedahn> ahh
[2006/01/28 23:18:54]	<jakedahn> google cache?
[2006/01/28 23:19:01]	<ba> mmmm it might be on there
[2006/01/28 23:19:07]	<ba> http://www.absolutecross.com/tutorials/p hotoshop/interfaces/glossy-buttons/ here is the other one though
[2006/01/28 23:20:05]	@ Quit: mgriego:
[2006/01/28 23:20:31]	<jakedahn> hey ba have you ever tried Flock?
[2006/01/28 23:22:48]	<cgriego> Chris was wondering before whether to work off the stable developer release or an hourly build and I talked him into doing the hourly.
[2006/01/28 23:22:59]	<ba> flock?
[2006/01/28 23:23:15]	<jakedahn> ba: http://flock.com
[2006/01/28 23:23:19]	<jakedahn> download it and play
[2006/01/28 23:23:24]	<jakedahn> i guarentee you will love it
[2006/01/28 23:23:39]	<jakedahn> cgriego: i cant believe he crashed it!
[2006/01/28 23:24:02]	<ba> why would i use flock when i could use firefox?
[2006/01/28 23:24:11]	<jakedahn> because it is better
[2006/01/28 23:24:15]	<jakedahn> and has more features
[2006/01/28 23:24:19]	<jakedahn> not better*
[2006/01/28 23:24:24]	<jakedahn> but it has more features
[2006/01/28 23:24:31]	<jakedahn> that can cut down on a lot of time
[2006/01/28 23:24:38]	<jakedahn> and helps with a bunch of things
[2006/01/28 23:24:42]	<ba> ill take a look
[2006/01/28 23:24:44]	<jakedahn> just try it
[2006/01/28 23:24:47]	<jakedahn> its fun
[2006/01/28 23:25:01]	<jakedahn> if you want a bran new build go to http://tinderbox.flock.com/builds
[2006/01/28 23:25:34]	<ba> downloading
[2006/01/28 23:25:37]	<jakedahn> cgriego: the hourlies are WAY more stable than what happend in chris' demo
[2006/01/28 23:25:40]	<jakedahn> today
[2006/01/28 23:25:41]	* ba gets mad at girlfriend
[2006/01/28 23:26:34]	<jakedahn> for what?
[2006/01/28 23:26:53]	<ba> bah i cant tell you now
[2006/01/28 23:26:57]	<ba> shes coming up the stairs
[2006/01/28 23:26:58]	<ba> brb
[2006/01/28 23:27:01]	@ Quit: ba:
[2006/01/28 23:27:01]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 23:27:08]	<jakedahn> thats not good
[2006/01/28 23:29:20]	<cgriego> so how many people are camping?
[2006/01/28 23:29:45]	<jakedahn> ill camp in spirit :'(
[2006/01/28 23:32:50]	<cgriego> I backed out, I have a week of sleep to catch up on.
[2006/01/28 23:33:00]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 23:33:07]	<jakedahn> on a saturday?
[2006/01/28 23:33:30]	<jakedahn> i say skip monday and sleep all sunday
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[2006/01/28 23:43:21]	<cgriego> brianoberkirch: how many people are camping?
[2006/01/28 23:43:30]	<brianoberkirch> yo!
[2006/01/28 23:43:31]	<brianoberkirch> None
[2006/01/28 23:43:38]	<cgriego> ah
[2006/01/28 23:43:41]	<jakedahn> to
[2006/01/28 23:43:42]	<brianoberkirch> we all just went out
[2006/01/28 23:43:44]	<jakedahn> yo*
[2006/01/28 23:43:57]	<brianoberkirch> Mashpit tomorrow
[2006/01/28 23:44:04]	<brianoberkirch> 10:00 @ the Infomart
[2006/01/28 23:44:14]	<brianoberkirch> call me if anyone needs to get in
[2006/01/28 23:44:20]	<brianoberkirch> 214.764.1437
[2006/01/28 23:44:32]	<jakedahn> why must it be so early?
[2006/01/28 23:44:59]	<jakedahn> brianoberkirch: any chance there will be a camera there for video?
[2006/01/28 23:45:14]	<brianoberkirch> I don't think so for tomorrow
[2006/01/28 23:45:16]	<brianoberkirch> small group
[2006/01/28 23:45:22]	<brianoberkirch> We'll flickr up the photos
[2006/01/28 23:45:40]	<jakedahn> ahh
[2006/01/28 23:45:41]	@ cgriego set topic "MashPit @ INFOMART 10am"
[2006/01/28 23:45:50]	<jakedahn> what are you guys mashin together?
[2006/01/28 23:45:59]	<jakedahn> the same thing as 1st mash pit?
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[2006/01/28 23:47:44]	<cgriego> yay, the Parrot Sketch is on BBC America
[2006/01/28 23:47:57]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/28 23:48:11]	<jakedahn> i dont even get BBC America
[2006/01/28 23:48:22]	<jakedahn> closest thing to it is PBS
[2006/01/28 23:48:35]	<jakedahn> there is BBC news and some comedy on it
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[2006/01/28 23:48:59]	<cgriego> weekly Red Dwarf :)
[2006/01/28 23:49:02]	<brianoberkirch> blake
[2006/01/28 23:49:05]	<brianoberkirch> you coming tomorrow?
[2006/01/28 23:49:19]	<brianoberkirch> jake: we have no idea yet
[2006/01/28 23:49:42]	<jakedahn> aye
[2006/01/28 23:59:37]	<jakedahn> cgriego: you still around?
[2006/01/28 23:59:48]	<cgriego> heh, barely
[2006/01/28 23:59:59]	<jakedahn> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cgriego/690 30954/
[2006/01/29 00:00:06]	<jakedahn> wanna change the license on that?
[2006/01/29 00:00:20]	<cgriego> can't, not mine
[2006/01/29 00:00:29]	<jakedahn> ahh
[2006/01/29 00:01:25]	<cgriego> I should actually get a shot of my own keyboard
[2006/01/29 00:01:51]	<jakedahn> yeah
[2006/01/29 00:02:01]	<jakedahn> just that key ;)
[2006/01/29 00:02:01]	<cgriego> Red Dwarf time on channel 13^_^
[2006/01/29 00:02:07]	<jakedahn> lol
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[2006/01/29 04:45:07]	<ba> ok i was in here awhile back
[2006/01/29 04:45:15]	<ba> who sent me to the flock site?
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[2006/01/29 09:42:48]	<blakestar> looking to be at mashpit after nnon
[2006/01/29 09:42:54]	<blakestar> 12:30 ish
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[2006/01/29 10:58:17]	<kevinmarvin> Leverington: Are you in here?
[2006/01/29 11:03:45]	<brianoberkirch> we are doing mashpit ideas at #mashpit
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[2006/01/29 12:31:37]	<KevinMarks> is this channel done?
[2006/01/29 12:33:17]	* Tantek wonders where's factoryjoe.
[2006/01/29 12:33:18]	<jakedahn> mabye?
[2006/01/29 12:33:32]	<Tantek> was it only one day?
[2006/01/29 12:33:36]	<jakedahn> tantek: hes in #mashpit
[2006/01/29 12:34:55]	<ba> who sent me to get flock yesterday?
[2006/01/29 12:35:07]	<jakedahn> that would be me ;)
[2006/01/29 12:35:16]	<jakedahn> any problems or questions?
[2006/01/29 12:35:17]	<ba> its fucking awesome
[2006/01/29 12:35:33]	<jakedahn> glad ya like it! ;)
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[2006/01/29 12:35:49]	<ba> you on the dev team or something
[2006/01/29 12:36:12]	<jakedahn> not really, im a volunteer, i do bug work and such
[2006/01/29 12:36:23]	<jakedahn> lol too bad chris wasnt in here to hear that
[2006/01/29 12:36:43]	<ba> hear what
[2006/01/29 12:36:59]	<jakedahn> "ba: its fucking awesome"
[2006/01/29 12:37:05]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/29 12:37:12]	<ba> could always log it and send it to him
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[2006/01/29 12:40:49]	<Tantek> Kevin, try X2V on Suda's site, it provies more warnings/debugging
[2006/01/29 12:41:05]	<Tantek> oops wrong room. :)
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[2006/01/29 12:44:09]	<jakedahn> ba: meet chris a.k.a Factoryjoe
[2006/01/29 12:44:19]	<factoryjoe> sup ba
[2006/01/29 12:46:05]	<ba> not to much, just chillin
[2006/01/29 12:46:14]	<ba> sitting in my underwear because i just woke up
[2006/01/29 12:47:01]	<jakedahn> lol good to know ;)
[2006/01/29 12:47:28]	<ba> you asked :D
[2006/01/29 12:47:50]	<ba> brb keyboard needs new batteries
[2006/01/29 12:49:06]	<ba> ah much better
[2006/01/29 12:49:11]	<jakedahn> wireless?
[2006/01/29 12:49:30]	<ba> ya its a total peice of shit, but i got it for like 30 bucks so i cant complain
[2006/01/29 12:49:40]	<ba> im still trying to sell this box so i can buy an ibook
[2006/01/29 12:49:46]	<jakedahn> lol
[2006/01/29 12:49:56]	<jakedahn> i need a laptop really bad
[2006/01/29 12:50:04]	<ba> the whole computers good, the keyboards just wack
[2006/01/29 12:50:30]	<ba> ya tell me about it, i need my ibook because im going to university in montreal next year for design
[2006/01/29 12:51:32]	<jakedahn> ahh
[2006/01/29 12:51:42]	<jakedahn> wow, seems everyone these days is taking design
[2006/01/29 12:52:31]	<ba> ya... i dunno i think its something id be good at
[2006/01/29 12:52:48]	<jakedahn> ever do any programming ?
[2006/01/29 12:52:50]	<ba> or i could get into multimedia arts, or marketing or something
[2006/01/29 12:53:17]	<ba> not overly....
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[2006/01/29 12:53:50]	<ba> i guess i was never really interested enough
[2006/01/29 12:53:52]	<jakedahn> its good stuff ;)
[2006/01/29 12:54:01]	<ba> im sure id be good at it if i started though
[2006/01/29 12:54:16]	<ba> i have rank A.D.D. .... most people with add make awesome programmers
[2006/01/29 12:55:30]	<jakedahn> yeah
[2006/01/29 12:55:34]	<jakedahn> kinda
[2006/01/29 12:55:48]	<jakedahn> when you cant concentrate you get good ideas
[2006/01/29 12:55:56]	<jakedahn> but it is harder to sit there and do hard coding
[2006/01/29 12:56:07]	<jakedahn> you have to get really motivaated to get goin
[2006/01/29 12:56:26]	<jakedahn> or you could just do what steve jobs did...
[2006/01/29 12:56:30]	<jakedahn> he took acid
[2006/01/29 12:56:37]	<jakedahn> even more ideas!
[2006/01/29 12:56:53]	<ba> ya... are you into podcasts that much, i was watching a podcast called diggnation the other day and some guy at cisco takes acid whenever he guys stuck programming.... thats why cisco doesnt do drug screenings
[2006/01/29 12:57:02]	<ba> you watched that to haha
[2006/01/29 12:57:13]	<ba> weird, you typed the same thing as i did
[2006/01/29 12:57:19]	<jakedahn> lol

[2006/01/29 12:57:22]	<jakedahn> im psychic ;)
[2006/01/29 12:57:29]	<ba> or maybe i am :O
[2006/01/29 12:57:41]	<jakedahn> hehe i doubt it
[2006/01/29 12:57:57]	<jakedahn> lol i have actual expirience in that feild... but i wont talk about that now
[2006/01/29 12:58:09]	<jakedahn> but yeah i a pod listener
[2006/01/29 12:58:09]	<ba> ya, i just do them for fun :D
[2006/01/29 12:58:15]	<jakedahn> but ive never made one
[2006/01/29 12:58:26]	<ba> jake, check out www.inoveryourhead.net
[2006/01/29 12:58:32]	<ba> its a really good podcast
[2006/01/29 12:58:44]	<jakedahn> about what?
[2006/01/29 12:59:03]	<ba> its a hiphop podcast, but its good
[2006/01/29 12:59:15]	<jakedahn> eww
[2006/01/29 12:59:19]	<ba> i listen to Hardcore myself but i really like this podcast
[2006/01/29 12:59:26]	* jakedahn is not a 'hiphop' fan
[2006/01/29 12:59:32]	<ba> what do you listen to
[2006/01/29 12:59:39]	<jakedahn> lol, im more of a metal head
[2006/01/29 12:59:53]	<ba> ya hardcore is pretty much metal
[2006/01/29 12:59:55]	<jakedahn> anything loud enough to work too is good for me :D
[2006/01/29 13:00:09]	<jakedahn> what kind of hardcore?
[2006/01/29 13:00:18]	<jakedahn> there is like rap hardcore, and hardcore rock
[2006/01/29 13:00:27]	<ba> ah, hardcore as in metalcore
[2006/01/29 13:00:33]	<jakedahn> ahh
[2006/01/29 13:00:34]	<ba> jakedahn you have skype?
[2006/01/29 13:00:37]	<jakedahn> what bands?
[2006/01/29 13:00:50]	<jakedahn> ba: i have an account but i dont use it
[2006/01/29 13:00:55]	<jakedahn> nor do i have it installed
[2006/01/29 13:00:58]	<ba> mmm can you accept dcc?
[2006/01/29 13:01:02]	<jakedahn> i dont have a mic port :-\
[2006/01/29 13:01:20]	<jakedahn> you going to send a file?
[2006/01/29 13:01:37]	<ba> yes, i sent the request
[2006/01/29 13:01:47]	<ba> its pretty much the kind of stuff i listen to
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[2006/01/29 13:02:22]	<jakedahn> ah
[2006/01/29 13:02:43]	<ba> sent request, waiting reply
[2006/01/29 13:02:53]	<jakedahn> anyway im going to finish this homework and then attempt to take a shower without killing myself
[2006/01/29 13:03:01]	<jakedahn> ba: to skype?
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[2006/01/29 13:04:51]	<jakedahn> hey blakestar
[2006/01/29 13:05:02]	<ba> no no, dcc
[2006/01/29 13:05:25]	<jakedahn> ba i never got a popup
[2006/01/29 13:06:16]	<jakedahn> blakestar join #mashpit if your up for some mashin
[2006/01/29 13:07:33]	<ba> mmmmmm
[2006/01/29 13:08:20]	<ba> jakedahn: http://www.hxcmp3.com/bands/2071/index.p hp check out this band
[2006/01/29 13:08:55]	<jakedahn> i will later right now i gotta do some crap
[2006/01/29 13:08:57]	<jakedahn> be back in a bit
[2006/01/29 13:09:08]	@ jakedahn is now known as jake-away
[2006/01/29 13:09:19]	<ba> pl
[2006/01/29 13:09:21]	<ba> ok
[2006/01/29 13:47:45]	@ jake-away is now known as jakedahn
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[2006/01/29 14:49:16]	<KevinMarks> ?part #barcamp
[2006/01/29 14:50:07]	<KevinMarks> ?leave #barcamp
[2006/01/29 14:51:00]	<jakedahn> kevin use /
[2006/01/29 14:52:39]	<KevinMarks> I was tryign to get jibot to leave
[2006/01/29 14:52:49]	<KevinMarks> ?part
[2006/01/29 14:52:49]	<jibot> Which channel shall I part?
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[2006/01/29 14:53:10]	<KevinMarks> ?part #barcampdallas
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[2006/01/29 14:53:15]	<KevinMarks> aha
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