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TransitCampBayArea-NotesFromSessions
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on February 24, 2008 at 12:00:24 pm
Some random notes from many of the sessions I attended. Feel free to add your thoughts.
- Rachel M. Murray
Problems:
- Multiplicity: multiple agencies, multiple committees, the 'right' staff person, overlaping jurisdictions
- Wayfinding: people can't find info, physical confusion
- The system: political process doesn't allow for organic discussion (from citizens)
- Service discrepancies: not always service in peak hours etc.
- Interdisciplinary: How do we get transit to reflect changes in housing (i.e. SRI has new people)? What data do we need re: schedule
- Availability of the system: Have way for Pacificans to get to Caltrain etc.
- Have way for Pacificans to get to Caltrain etc.
- Economics: economics of transit depends on riders, on the ability to get to transit itself (to stations and stops etc.)
- Context: it's not about finding out where people go now - it's also where people need to go if they could... is this being addressed?
- Goals: there are different goals here: more riders? more transit options? more information? What are the metrics? Need to determine goals and metrics for success.
Analysis:
- Problems are political not technical - a Google maps mashup is not going to address the political will question, and that to car-obsessed America, public transit is not always a priority
- Must remember who your end users are - how population is growing older etc.
- Should assign a dollar cost to everything we do - i.e. typical transit ride costs $40 - people would want to take their car rather than pay for transit
- Time, cost - two of the biggest issues we deal with, but not the only obstacles, sadly
- Issue is massive: Lots to learn at local level - but transit is a big issue, with a lot of political issues. Also transit overlaps with land use, housing.
- Does sharing data sets hurt 511.org? they ask for data stats back - part of their legal framework for operating. How can we facilitate this return of data? Are there data warehouse folks who could automate the process?
- Brad Templteton - open 511.org up to open development community (to help fix things) so that a thousand flowers bloom (!)
- Don't use stovetop approach -1) gather raw data; 2) allow trip planning, 3) UI that allows people to express queries. Need to do meta things like how airline industry - instead of the paradigm of 'I need to get here on x date', someone came along and said 'I need to get here for x amount'
- Biggest draw for density is jobs - drive transit by that jobs density - but it's important to not just put people into dense areas, becuase their quality of life decreases
- Chuck Purvis, MTC: Bay Area Socio-Economic & Transportation Trend
- "density is destiny" ; SF Bay is 4th most dense area of the U.S.
- Association of Bay Area Gov'ts org (need name)
- Transit Share of Work Trips - 10.6% in 2025?!? This is more about land use, and where people live, not necessarily about access to transit
- 58% of households have 2 cars. No wonder we don't have transit...
- have to account for folks who *have* cars and don't use them and instead use transit
- "can I have access to my own data set?"
- Different agencies have different data set models
Solutions:
- Technical:
- Existing:
- Future we need:
- Need Ride XML - data standard - i.e. need Microformats folks to see what standard they can build for data interoperability across agencies, and how a new microformat will play well with .CSV, which is the current standard for most agencies
- Have your own data set (i.e. Terry Nagel having her own info in dealing with PG & E)
- Have the transit agencies open the data sets so that citizens can figure things out
- Have tools that have contexts (i.e. "I'm a parent that's looking for a route safe for my children").
- Organizations:
- Existing:
- Future (we need theses):
Results:
TBD... up to you...
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