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TransitCampBayArea-NotesFromSessions

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Some random notes from many of the sessions I attended. Feel free to add your thoughts.

 

- Rachel M. Murray


 

Problems:

  • Multiplicity: multiple agencies, multiple committees, the 'right' staff person, overlaping jurisdictions
  • Wayfinding: people can't find info, physical confusion
  • The system: political process doesn't allow for organic discussion (from citizens)
  • Service discrepancies: not always service in peak hours etc.
  • Interdisciplinary: How do we get transit to reflect changes in housing (i.e. SRI has new people)? What data do we need re: schedule
  • Availability of the system: Have way for Pacificans to get to Caltrain etc.
  • Have way for Pacificans to get to Caltrain etc.
  • Economics: economics of transit depends on riders, on the ability to get to transit itself (to stations and stops etc.)
  • Context: it's not about finding out where people go now - it's also where people need to go if they could... is this being addressed?
  • Goals: there are different goals here: more riders? more transit options? more information? What are the metrics? Need to determine goals and metrics for success.

 

Analysis:

  • Problems are political not technical - a Google maps mashup is not going to address the political will question, and that to car-obsessed America, public transit is not always a priority
  • Must remember who your end users are - how population is growing older etc.
  • Should assign a dollar cost to everything we do - i.e. typical transit ride costs $40 - people would want to take their car rather than pay for transit
  • Time, cost - two of the biggest issues we deal with, but not the only obstacles, sadly
  • Issue is massive: Lots to learn at local level - but transit is a big issue, with a lot of political issues. Also transit overlaps with land use, housing.
  • Does sharing data sets hurt 511.org? they ask for data stats back - part of their legal framework for operating. How can we facilitate this return of data? Are there data warehouse folks who could automate the process?
  • Brad Templteton - open 511.org up to open development community (to help fix things) so that a thousand flowers bloom (!)
  • Don't use stovetop approach -1) gather raw data; 2) allow trip planning, 3) UI that allows people to express queries. Need to do meta things like how airline industry - instead of the paradigm of 'I need to get here on x date', someone came along and said 'I need to get here for x amount'
  • Biggest draw for density is jobs - drive transit by that jobs density - but it's important to not just put people into dense areas, becuase their quality of life decreases
  • Chuck Purvis, MTC: Bay Area Socio-Economic & Transportation Trend
    • "density is destiny" ; SF Bay is 4th most dense area of the U.S.
    • Association of Bay Area Gov'ts org (need name)
    • Transit Share of Work Trips - 10.6% in 2025?!? This is more about land use, and where people live, not necessarily about access to transit
    • 58% of households have 2 cars. No wonder we don't have transit...
    • have to account for folks who *have* cars and don't use them and instead use transit
    • "can I have access to my own data set?"
    • Different agencies have different data set models

 

Solutions:

  • Technical:
    • Existing:
    • Future we need:
      • Need Ride XML - data standard - i.e. need Microformats folks to see what standard they can build for data interoperability across agencies, and how a new microformat will play well with .CSV, which is the current standard for most agencies
      • Have your own data set (i.e. Terry Nagel having her own info in dealing with PG & E)
      • Have the transit agencies open the data sets so that citizens can figure things out
      • Have tools that have contexts (i.e. "I'm a parent that's looking for a route safe for my children").
  • Organizations:
    • Existing:
    • Future (we need theses):
      • ?

 

Results:

 

TBD... up to you...